HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-26-2011 Adj. MinutesMayor Patrick J. Morris
CITY OF SAN BERNARDINO Council Members:
Virginia Marquez
300 N. "D "Street Vacant
San Bernardino, CA 92418 robin Brinker
Website:www.sbcity.org Fred shorett
Chas Kelley
Rikke
SanBernar ino Van Johnson
sM Wendy McCammack
MINUTES
MAYOR AND COMMON COUNCIL AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF SAN BERNARDINO
JOINT ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 26, 2011
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARDROOM
201 NORTH "E" STREET
SAN BERNARDINO, CALIFORNIA
This is the time and place designated for a joint adjourned regular meeting of the
Mayor and Common Council and Community Development Commission of the City of
San Bernardino from the joint regular meeting of the Mayor and Common Council and
Community Development Commission held at 1:30 p.m., Monday, April 18, 2011, in
the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California.
The City Clerk has caused to be posted the order of adjournment of said meeting held
on Monday, April 18, 2011, and has on file in the office of the City Clerk an affidavit
of said posting together with a copy of said order which was posted at 12 p.m.,
Tuesday, April 19, 2011, on the bulletin board located in the City Hall breezeway.
The joint adjourned regular meeting of the Mayor and Common Council and
Community Development Commission of the City of San Bernardino was called to
order by Mayor/Chairman Morris at 5:11 p.m., Tuesday, April 26, 2011, in the
Economic Development Agency Boardroom, 201 North "E" Street, San Bernardino,
California.
Roll Call
Present: Mayor/Chairman Morris; Council Members/Commissioners Marquez,
Brinker, Shorett, Johnson, McCammack; City Attorney Penman, City
Manager McNeely, City Clerk Clark.
Absent: Council Member/Commissioner Kelley.
Vacant: Second Ward.
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Council Member/Commissioner Kelley arrived at 5:27 p.m.
1. Pursuant to Government Code Section(s):
A. Conference with legal counsel - existing litigation - pursuant to
Government Code Section 54956.9(a).
B. Conference with legal counsel - anticipated litigation - significant
exposure to litigation - pursuant to subdivision (b) (1), (2), (3) (A -F) of
Government Code Section 54956.9.
C. Conference with legal counsel - anticipated litigation - initiation of
litigation - pursuant to subdivision (c) of Government Code Section
54956.9.
D. Closed Session - personnel - pursuant to Government Code Section
54957.
E. Closed session with Chief of Police on matters posing a threat to the
security of public buildings or threat to the public's right of access to
public services or public facilities - pursuant to Government Code
Section 54957.
F. Conference with labor negotiator - pursuant to Government Code
Section 54957.6.
G. Conference with real property negotiator - pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.8.
The Mayor and Common Council did not recess to closed session during this
meeting.
Mayor/Chairman Morris announced the passing during the past week of two former
Sixth Ward Council members, Norris P. Gregory, Jr. and Valerie Pope -Ludlam, and
provided the dates and times of their services.
Mayor/Chairman Morris introduced Dr. Bill Mathis of the Mathis Group, a
management psychologist who facilitated workshops for the Mayor and Council last
year and would be facilitating today's meeting.
2. Boards and Commissions
City Manager McNeely provided an overview of the staff report contained in
the backup materials. The report was divided into four separate issues relative
to the various board and commissions and was discussed accordingly.
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Issue 1 - Eliminating Boards and Commissions That Have Served Their Purpose
or Are Inactive
The three commissions recommended for elimination were the Central City
Parking Place Commission, the Community Television Commission and the
Youth Advisory Commission.
Lori Tillery, Project Manager, Economic Development Agency, answered
questions relative to the Central City Parking Place Commission and the
Community Television Commission. Kevin Hawkins, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Community Services, addressed questions relative to the Youth
Advisory Commission.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack noted that combining committees
had been discussed at the Legislative Review Committee (LRC); however, it
was never moved out of the LRC due to several questions about the
commissions/committees and their roles.
Public Comments:
Joe Ortiz, San Bernardino, CA.
Council Member/Commissioner Shorett made a motion, seconded by Council
Member/Commissioner Brinker, to eliminate the Central City Parking Place
Commission, the Community Television Commission, and the Youth Advisory
Board. (No vote was taken.)
City Attorney Penman advised that the public should be able to understand what
is going to be done at a meeting, and he didn't think there was enough
specificity on the agenda to take this action. He stated that a new ordinance
may be needed on some of the items, and that an ordinance cannot be repealed
by a motion—another ordinance would have to be adopted to repeal it.
Council Member/Commissioner Shorett amended his motion, seconded by
Council Member/Commissioner Brinker, that staff be directed to take whatever
steps are necessary to eliminate the three commissions.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack stated that she thought it would
be wiser and a better use of staff time if they simply allowed these commissions
to be dormant or inactive so staff would not have to do any additional work to
eliminate them.
Mr. Penman suggested that the motion be worded to "consider" the elimination
since the Council had not heard from the public.
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Council Member/Commissioner Shorett made a second amendment to his
motion, seconded by Council Member/Commissioner Brinker, that the Mayor
and Common Council consider the elimination of the Central City Parking
Place Commission, the Community Television Commission, and the Youth
Advisory Commission and direct staff to take the necessary steps to bring the
matter back to the Mayor and Common Council. The motion carried with
McCammack voting "no" and Kelley absent.
Issue 2 - Combining Boards & Commissions with Overlapping Roles and
Responsibilities
Note: The staff report proposed combining the Board of Fire Commissioners,
the Animal Control Commission, the Bureau of Franchises, and the Board of
Police Commissioners into a single Public Safety Commission.
Police Chief Kilmer stated that it takes about nine staff members to prepare for,
attend, and follow up on the Board of Police Commissioners at a cost of
approximately $1,000 per meeting per month for all staff involved. He added
that the Police Department also provides support for the Human Relations
Commission and has recently taken on the Animal Control Commission. He
stated that he envisions a Public Safety Commission with an agenda that covers
the individual issues. This would mean that the public would have only one
meeting to attend.
Fire Chief Conrad stated that he has been chief for 41/2 years and it has been
very difficult to get a quorum for the Board of Fire Commissioners; in fact, in
the last 24 months they have had a quorum only four times, which makes it very
difficult to accomplish anything. He thought that combining these commissions
made a lot of sense.
Public Comments:
Felix D'Amico, San Bernardino, CA - member of the Board of Police
Commissioners and the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Insofar as a combined Public Safety Commission is concerned, it was suggested
that cross training of the commission members be provided and that
consideration be given to increasing the number of commission members
appointed by each Council member. Council Member/Commissioner
McCammack stated that maybe this was the time to talk about a Public Safety
Director for the City.
Council Member/Commissioner Brinker stated that he would like to see a cost
analysis of the savings if this action is taken.
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Council Member/Commissioner McCammack stated that she would like to see
some type of "road map" of the restructuring. She also expressed concern
regarding how the decision would be made insofar as "firing" some of the
current commission members.
Police Chief Kilmer stated that a couple of different options have been
discussed. One is to reconstitute the Public Safety Commission and make the
appointments starting from ground zero. The other is to form a commission of
a different size (maybe in transition from the various commissions that currently
exist) and then have that reduced down in number over a period of time.
However, he felt there were other options that would fall between these two
ideas that could be brought back and presented to the Council.
City Attorney Penman provided background information regarding the number
of vacancies that have existed on several of the commissions. He stated that he
believed it was important for the Board of Building Commissioners and the
Planning Commission to continue to have alternate positions. He also provided
information as to why some of the commissions were established, stating that
for many of them the motivation for establishment was not included in the
establishing ordinance.
Mayor/Chairman Morris noted that a requirement for the Board of Fire
Commissioners is that six of the nine members have specialized experience in
fire insurance, fire control administration, or fire control. Mayor/Chairman
Morris stated that he has made numerous efforts trying to find individuals who
meet these specialty requirements, to no avail. He suggested that no matter
what else they do, they should either abolish this requirement, or at least reduce
the number of individuals required to have this specialty experience.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack made a motion that if all else fails
that the Mayor and Council at least make that alternate change. The motion
failed for lack of a second.
Council Member/Commissioner Brinker made a motion, seconded by Council
Member/Commissioner Shorett, that staff be directed to prepare the necessary
documentation to create a Public Safety Commission by combining the Fire
Commission, Animal Control Commission, and Bureau of Franchises together
with the Police Commission, and transferring the public safety functions of the
Human Relations Commission to the Public Safety Commission. The motion
carried with McCammack voting "no."
Issue 3 - Update, Modernize, or Amend Structure or Scope of Existing Boards
and Commissions
According to staff's recollection, the Santa Ana River Trail had not met for
approximately 36 months. Council Member/Commissioner McCammack stated
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this was one committee that she had thought would either go inactive or be
eliminated, because she thought it was a waste of staffs time. She stated that it
had an initial purpose and the volunteers did an excellent job, but she thought it
was time for it to go inactive and reactivate if either new grant money comes
forward or new opportunities for completion or addition to the trail itself come
forward.
Relative to the Board of Building Commissioners (BBC) and redefining their
appeal authority—she had no problem with that because that's leaving the Board
intact; however, if they've got no appeal authority, she wondered exactly what
their responsibility and their role would be. She thought that eliminating
alternates on any of the commissions was a mistake.
City Attorney Penman stated that insofar as the Board of Building
Commissioners was concerned, his office, which probably deals the most with
the appeals process, has no problem under the current structure of the
administrative citations and administrative civil penalties doing away with the
appeal process. He noted that the reason the appeal was put to the Board of
Building Commissioners was that the Mayor and Council did not want to have
to deal with it, and that was a wise decision because the Mayor and Council
could get bogged down in hearing a lot of individual cases, and it would be
problematic.
He stated that there has been consideration made of farming out much of the
process of the hearings to a company that does this type of work for profit.
However, in talking to other cities and the County Counsel's office where the
process has been done, that can become a problem. The companies are there to
make a profit, not to administer justice, and when people call up and ask for a
hearing, some of them have been told, "We're sorry but you missed the
deadline." They have said, "Well, no one told us about the deadline," and the
reply has been, "Well, that's your problem." We don't do that in the City of
San Bernardino—we go out of our way to make sure that everybody gets a
notice and everybody gets their chance to be heard.
He stated that if we are going to go to a commercial company to provide justice
for the people of San Bernardino, an appeal process is needed because we are
going to be in the same situation that we've been in with the company that bills
people for ambulance rides. We are going to get all of the complaints,
especially from senior citizens, relative to billing problems.
He stated that if we continue with the present structure and it isn't broken, there
is no need to fix it—there is no need, in the opinion of the City Attorney's
office, to have an appeal process go to the Board of Building Commissioners
and the Administrative Citation process. But, if the Council is seriously
considering farming out to a for-profit commercial company, whose interest is
not justice but making money, there is going to be a need for an appeal process
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for the citation hearings, be it ACPs or administrative citations. He stated that
if the Council doesn't do it, he could foresee that a citizen's group would
quickly form and by petition there would be an initiative ordinance presented to
the Council to either enact or place on the ballot.
Insofar as to what the duties of the BBC would be if the appeals of the
administrative citations go away, Margo Wheeler, Director of Community
Development, pointed out that ACPs are not appealed to the Board of Building
Commissioners.
Responding to inquires from the Council, Ms. Wheeler noted that appeals of the
building code are very infrequent, that there is no problem getting a BBC
quorum when needed, and the BBC met six times during 2010.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack stated that before the City
Manager and staff go forward with any recommendations related to combining
commissions, she would respectfully request that staff gather input from each
and every currently affected commissioner, either in an email written form or at
the next meeting (if it's timely), and collectively, so that the Council members
can see the full breadth and scope of what their thoughts and thinking are before
it comes back to them for formal action. She stated that if it was not the will of
the Council to direct staff to do that, then she would gather that collectively
from her commissioners.
City Manager McNeely stated that he thought he had been clear that when they
come back to the Council with the recommendation staff's intent would be to
make this an inclusive process where they would reach out to every single board
and commission member that is affected in this consolidation to get their input
and recommendations. He stated that staff would like to make this a win/win
situation where they come back with something that the commissioners are
supportive of.
Ms. McCammack stated that she would like to see the comments from the
individual commissioners in writing.
Mr. McNeely answered that he would be happy to do that and staff would invite
the commission members themselves to be present when staff makes that
recommendation.
Mr. Mathis asked what the pleasure of the Council was insofar as moving
forward on Item 3 (update, modernize, or amend structure or scope of existing
boards and commissions.)
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City Attorney Penman stated that the idea of farming out the hearing process
was actually presented to the Council during the ACP workshop—he thought it
might have been last summer—and the Board of Building Commissioners duties
are really broader than a person might have gathered from the comments from
the Director of Community Development. He stated that the BBC is required to
handle duties delegated to it by the Uniform Building Code, which is adopted by
the City and by four chapters in the San Bernardino City Municipal Code—that
it's not just the hearings of the administrative citations—there are other things
that they may do.
He stated that one of the things that is problematic that the City has not
addressed for some time is the question of whether or not all of the matters that
are supposed to go to some of the commissions, such as the Board of Building
Commissioners and the Planning Commission, have in fact been going to those
commissions, or have they been derailed by staff and not gone to the
commissions. The City Manager needs to look into that because the Board of
Building Commissioners has a number of duties that they should be attending to,
but if staff does not agendize them they do not get addressed.
Regarding the Santa Ana River Trail Commission, Mayor/Chairman Morris
advised that several years ago they opened up that portion of the trail from
Waterman into Colton; and the part that starts at Waterman and goes to
Redlands has not yet been constructed, nor the trail from Redlands up to the
airport in Redlands, which is the last paved portion of the trail that has not been
constructed. He stated that that commission does have a role and advocacy
because the trail is not yet finished—that funding is there but it has not been
delivered due to the State's budget—so there is room for advocacy here until the
trail is finished. However, when it is finished, he thought the commission ought
to be dissolved.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack suggested that in order to
continue to save staff time that they incorporate the Santa Ana River Trail
Commission into the Parks and Recreation Commission because they go hand in
hand. She stated that she thought the Parks Department is very successful in
achieving and receiving grants and she thought they pretty much serve the same
function.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack made a motion that the Santa Ana
River Trail Commission be incorporated into the Parks and Recreation
Commission and that they follow the written recommendation regarding the
Board of Building Commissioners (as contained in the Staff Report). The
motion failed for lack of a second.
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Council Member/Commissioner Kelley stated that he did not have a problem
with Item 3 as written. He recognizes that there are opportunities for the Santa
Ana River Trail and its extension and he knows that the County is working on
the opportunity to extend it. He stated that when he considered how important
the Santa Ana River Trail is, he thought that seeing it go to an ad hoc committee
was a fair recommendation. He added that if something should come up in the
leg of our trail—the system that goes through our municipality—they might want
to have an ad hoc commission at hand to address some of that, but he knew on
good authority that the County is working on the next leg of the Santa Ana
River Trail.
Mayor/Chairman Morris added that the County is the lead agency in the crusade
to complete that great trail to the sea, which will be 110 miles long when it is all
completed. He stated that we have good leadership from the County on this
particular issue, and our group is an advocacy group to make sure it gets done
through our city.
Council Member/Commissioner Johnson pointed out that the Santa Ana River
Trail Commission as well as the Human Relations Commission are two of the
commissions within our city that the commissioners do not have to be residents
of a specific ward.
Council Member/Commissioner Brinker stated that a large portion of the Santa
Ana River Trail is in the Third Ward and he distinctly remembered going to a
meeting where they brought in an outside group from UC Irvine that had done
some planning regarding some parks that they wanted to build along the Santa
Ana River Trail. He stated that he was not opposed to changing it to an ad hoc
committee, but he did want to see if the Parks Department wanted to respond to
Ms. McCammack's suggestion that this should be incorporated into the Parks
and Recreation Commission.
Kevin Hawkins, Director of Parks, Recreation, and Community Services, noted
that the Parks and Recreation Commission is an advisory body for parks and
recreation related issues. He stated he was not opposed, as the director, to
being part of the trail discussions, but if it required resource allocation, at this
point they were not prepared to take on that responsibility.
Margo Wheeler stated that with regard to the concept of derailing items that
would go before the Board of Building Commissioners and Planning
Commission—that is a very serious issue with her, and in the cities where she
has had authority for the Board of Building Commissioners it is not unusual that
there are not many appeals because it's a very rare thing for an applicant to
appeal and offer an alternative to the building code, so that is not unusual. But
the concept of not bringing matters to the Planning Commission or the BBC is a
very serious issue and one she would never take lightly, so she wanted to put
that on the record.
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Mr. Penman stated he was glad to hear that, but he still found it interesting that
the Board of Building Commissioners used to have very full agendas and had
problems getting quorums; in fact, he almost lost some lawsuits because of it,
and that was prior to the time that the administrative citation process existed.
He stated he was not aware of any significant changes to the duties of the Board
of Building Commissioners, other than the administrative citation process.
Council Member/Commissioner Brinker made a motion, seconded by Council
Member/Commissioner Johnson that staff be directed to prepare the necessary
documentation to change the Santa Ana River Trail Commission to an ad hoc
committee and amend the Municipal Code to allow the Board of Building
Commissioners to retain the Board's appeal authority of building code matters
while eliminating its appeal authority on administrative citations. The motion
carried unanimously.
Issue 4 - Standardizing Structure of Existing Boards and Commissions
Assistant City Manager Kurita explained that this was a recommendation
standardizing the existing boards and commissions by eliminating the alternates,
where possible. She stated that given what the Council had directed staff to do
on suggestions 1-3, that would involve a number of the commissions identified
as having nine members plus two alternates. The remaining commissions to be
considered for this action would include the following: Planning Commission,
Fine Arts Commission, Human Relations Commission, Board of Building
Commissioners, and the Senior Affairs Commission.
Mayor/Chairman Morris stated that on the Planning Commission, alternates are
very valuable.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack and City Attorney Penman
expressed agreement with the Mayor regarding the need for alternates on the
Planning Commission. Mr. Penman also directed attention to Municipal Code
Section 2.17.035, which states that every commission in the City requires an
alternate member. He clarified that this applies to commissions designated in
Chapter 2—that commissions created outside of Chapter 2 would not be covered
by that provision.
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack made a motion to leave the
Planning Commission with two alternates.
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Council Member/Commissioner McCammack amended her motion, seconded
by Council Member/Commissioner Shorett, that the Mayor and Council
continue the discussion regarding standardizing the structure of existing boards
and commission until staff comes back with information and suggestions
regarding items 1-3. The motion carried unanimously.
3. Mayor and Common Council Procedures and Operational Guidelines
Council Member/Commissioner McCammack stated that she would like to see
more public involvement on this item and suggested a possible continuance to
the next regular Council meeting.
Public Comments:
Dave McCammack, San Bernardino, CA.
Joe Ortiz, San Bernardino, CA.
Council Member/Commissioner Marquez made a motion, seconded by Council
Member/Commissioner Johnson, that another workshop be scheduled to
consider this matter. The motion carried with McCammack voting "no" and
Johnson absent.
4. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 7:12 p.m. The next joint regular meeting of the
Mayor and Common Council/Community Development Commission is
scheduled for 1:30 p.m., Monday, May 2, 2011.
RACHEL G. CLARK, CMC
City Clerk
By: G
Linda E. Hartzel
Deputy City Clerk
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