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Home My WebLink AboutR01-Redevelopment Agency " ..' (' . '''' (.. I""'- '-'. ""'" .....,/ IlAYOR AIm COIMlN COUBCIL/ COIMJBITY DBVELOPIIDT COIKlSSION AIm TIIK JOIlIT POWERS FIIWICIlIG ADTIIORITY OF TIIK CITY OF SAlI BERlWlDIRO MINUTES JOIlIT IIBGULAR MBBTIlIG September 21, 1992 11:05 .... The Joint Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council/Community Development Commission and the Joint Powers Financing Authority, was called to order by Chairman W. R. Holcomb, at approximately 11:05 a.m., on Monday, September 21, 1992, in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL r.&T.T. Roll call waa taken with the following members present: Chairman W. R. Holcomb; Commission Members Jack Reilly; Ralph Hernandez; Michael Maudsley; Tom Minor; Valerie Pope-Ludlam and Norine Miller. Absent: Commission Member Esther Estrada (late); Commission Member Valerie Pope-Ludlam (late); and Commission Member Norine Miller (late). STAn' PRESBlIT Timothy C. Steinhaus, Administrator, Economic Development Agency; Kenneth J. Henderson, Executive Director, Development Department; Dennis Barlow, Senior Assistant City Attorney; Lorraine Velarde, Executive Assistant to the Mayor; Phil Arvizo, Executive Assistant to the Council; Ann Harris, Executive Director, Main Street; Melanie Vale, Deputy City Clerk; and La Vonda Pearson, Recording Secretary, Development Department. OTHERS IN ArrEImAlfCB Carol Baker, The Sun Newspaper. PUBLIC COMMEllTS ON ITEMS BOT OW AGBImA Dan Stark, Executive Director, Convention and Visitors Bureau, commented on the Route 66 Rendevous event that took place this weekend. He said it was a positive event with no arrests. Mr. Stark indicated that on Saturday, September 18, there were approximately 600 cars and about 5000 people attending the event. On Sunday, September 19, the crowd grew to about 8000 people and 900 cars, including celebrities. He said people from as far away as Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico attended. He stated the City had never had a Route 66 before to make a comparison, but felt that overall the event made a good economic development statement for the City. JOIlIT REGULAR MBBTIBG KJ1I:lmp:2408B COMIIISSIOW IIINllTES S5rI~ 21, 1992 - 1 - fA -~ , . ,,, <: <: - - - ..~.'.... r- "-' - COIlMISSION IIBMBBR ESTRADA AUIVBD AT 11:06 A.II. COIlMISSION MBIIBBR POPE-LUDLAM AUIVBD AT 11:06 A.II. COIlMISSION IIBMBBR IIILLBR AUIVBD AT 11:06 A.II. Mr~ Stark stated he and his staff have already began planning next years event and hope to extend it for 3 days. He indicated that the Over the Hill Gang, a major participant in the event, requested the name of a charity that they could make donations to. Mr. Stark recommended the Home of Neighborly Service due to its long standing in the Community. Mr. Stark presented plaques to the Police Department and also the Over the Hill Gang for its hard work and dedication to make the event a success. He also gave thanks to the Business License Department and his staff for their dedication also. Commission Member Miller questioned the input of the Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Stark thanked the Chamber of Commerce for its many volunteers who came out in support of the event and offered their help and also stated that hopefully next year would bring out many more volunteer organizations. CONSBBr CALDDAR Dennis Barlow, Senior Assistant City Attorney asked that item number "5" be removed from the consent calendar. Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Miller, that the Consent Calendar items numbered "1" through "6" be adopted, except for item number "5", respectively. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 1. JOINr POWERS FI-AWCIRG AUTHORITY lCnllllllnJlf tv Develo_ent COIIIIIissionl Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Estrada, that the Regular Meeting of the Joint Powers Financing Authority be continued to Monday, October 19, 1992. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. JOINr RBGOLAR MEBTIBG r.Jl[:laIp:2408B COIlMISSION IIIlIOTBS S~rraftDKR 21, 1992 - 2 - /4 '" ' '''' c: <: - - - 2. r" ~ COIl_tuft DBVBLOPIIDr COIMISSIOII MIlIOTES '""" ...; (COIBUllitv Develotllllent CODIission) Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Estrada, that the minutes of the Anguat 17, 1992 and September 8, 1992 meetings of the Comm\Ulity Development Commission of the City of San Bernardino be approved as submitted in typewritten form. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 3. AlIlIUAL IlEPOIlT 011 HOMIn.K!;SlIESS (CoBmlDlitv Develotllllent C..-fssion) Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Estrada to receive and file the attached Annual Report on Homelessness. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 4. I'OIlTIETII ST1lKI!T COllRlOOR (C........itv Develo_ent C..-fssion) Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Estrada to receive and file a status report on the 40th Street/Kendall Drive Corridor Study. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 6. 50/50 UlI1\lIr.A'PtRG PROGRAM: GOV.KKI.'IImltr PARCEL UII1\Sr.A'PtllG PROGRAM (C........itv Develo_ent Cn_fssion) Commission Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Estrada to receive and file the attached status report regarding the 50/50 and Government Parcel Landscaping Programs. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. JOIRr IlEGlJLAR MEl7IlIG r.Jll:J.mp:2408B COIIIIISSIOII MIlIOTES SBPrEMBER 21, 1992 - 3 - la -~ c: (: ('- .j" c ""'" - 5. PAIRTIBG OP VAIlIOUS CITY BUILDIRGS (Mavor ."d COIIIIIOD COlm"!l) Dennis Barlow, Senior Assistant City Attorney, informed the Council that the low-bid for this project was 71% below the engineers appraised amount. He indicated that due to this factor, he wanted to make the Council aware of possible future change orders for this project. Councilman Minor made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Estrada that the following resolution be approved and adopted: RESOLUTION NUMBER 92-385 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SAB BERNARDINO AWARDING A CONTRACT TO CHABOT PAINTING FOR EXTERIOR ARD INTERIOR PAINTING OF VARIOUS CITY BUILDINGS. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Council Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. ElU) OP COBBERT CALIlUlAK 7. 1lE000sr FOR rEMPOllAlIV USE OP PUBLIC ENTERPRISE CElITBR BUILDIRG (Community Deve10ument CnmBfssion) Kenneth J. Henderson, Executive Director, Development Department, indicated this item involved a request from the PAL Center to utilize the Public Enterprise Center Building for a period of 10 weeks. He stated the PAL Center has utilized the building on prior occasions. Mr. Henderson stated the PAL Center would be holding classes at the Enterprise Center from September 30 - December 2, 1992. He said the Agency cost to maintain the facility was approximately $10,000 a month. He explained that all of the overhead costs were outlined in the staff report. He said that based on maintenance costs for the facility, and the request to waive costs for the use of the building, staff recommended the request be denied. Commission Member Pope-Ludlam indicated that the staff report made a lot of assumptions, but did not contain many facts. She gave examples of the assumptions given by staff and indicated that there was no guarantee that the building would be sold to the Community College District. JOINT IlEGULAJl MBE'lIRG LJH: lIIp: 2408B COIIIIISSIOll IIIlIUTES SgPrBMBKR 21, 1992 -4- fa '" \... <: <: -- ""- Commission Member Pope-Ludlam expressed street not having any place to go, or anything Henry of the PAL Center could help those kids. ...-... ~ concern over kids in the to do, and felt that Dr. Chairman Holcomb agreed with Commission Member Pope-Ludlam that the request should be approved and not denied. He also felt that the Public Hearing should be held as Mr. Henderson suggested. Commission Member Pope-Ludlam made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Hernandez to approve the Provisional Learning Center request for use of the Public Enterprise Center Building for the period of September 30, 1992 through December 2, 1992. Mr. Henderson explained the reasoning for denying the request to the PAL Center, indicating that the Agency did not want to set a precedent for the long-term use of the building. Dr. Henry, PAL Center, stated the facility would be used for counseling and tutoring for youth. She indicated that the Center does have liability coverage for all students. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 8. COBrIRlJBD FROM Sl5rrJ5l'llSD 8. 1992 MAUl' STREET BUDGET (Collllltlll.itv Develo_ant Co_ission) Chairman Holcomb asked Mr. Steinhaus to brief the Commission on the overall savings of Main Street being 1mder the Economic Development Agency (EDA) . Timothy C. Steinhaus, Administrator, Economic Development Agency, indicated that staff tried to come up with advantages that would help both agencies. He said he received a letter from the Main Street Board requesting him to only negotiate with the board and not the Executive Director. He stated he tried to meet with the board, but was 1mable to meet with them due to schedule conflicts. JOIBr RBGOLAlt MDTIIIC lOll: l.ap:2408B COMIIISSIO. MIBDTES Sl5rrl5l'lDBK 21, 1992 - 5 - la ,-.. "- --.. ....' Mr. Steinhaus indicated that the most significant savings would be total cost and gave a preliminary figure of $128,000. He also indicated , , that the relocation of Main Street to the 201 Building would save in ,~ costs. He said advantages to the move would be allowing Main Street direct access to the street, accountability, and better communication with other departments. Jerry Casillas, Board Member, Main Street, indicated the board had scheduled a meeting with Mr. Steinhaus but had to cancel due to a meeting conflict. He stated the board had prepared a supplemental budget and report which was delivered to the Commission Members late Friday evening. Mr. Casillas discussed the report which highlighted on accountability, communication, efficiency and justification. CO.xSSIOIl MEMBER ESTRADA WAS EXCUSED AT 11:36 A.II. In discussing the report, Mr. Casillas emphasized that Main Street could trace all expenditures and deposits. He stated all goals and objectives had been achieved for the year and also that the 3 year budget of $3 million had funded the program for 5 years. COIKISSIOIl l'ml'lIUiIt ESTRADA umuED AT 11:37 A.II. c: Mr. Casillas indicated that Main Street was a liason for the Community and the City. He stated it specialized in business retention and downtown marketing. He said Main Street completed its jobs without impacting the City and 'IDA's budget. He also indicated that the budget comparisons done by the City with Main Street were invalid due to the size of Main Street. Mr. Casillas spoke on the programs that Main Street provided and also on the salary of the Executive Director, which he felt was in accordance with the size of the City she manages. He also spoke on the new position of Coordinator for the Main Street office. Commission Member Maudsley indicated that he was confused over the documents he had received Friday evening, and those received this morning, and asked for clarification. Ann Harris, Executive Director, Main Street, said for clarification and easy reading, she placed the 'IDA budget in one column and the Main Street budget in the next column for comparison. Al Walters, Citizen of San Bernardino, stated the City'S first concern should be its citizens. He felt the crime rate in San Bernardino was high and he felt if any money could be saved by the City, it should be saved and used in crime prevention. He emphasized that Mr. Casillas mentioned a goal of communication, yet he could not meet with the City for discussion. He also spoke on accountability and the lack of it. (~ JOlIn REGtJLAlt IlEETIlIG LJB:lmp:2408B -6- COIIIJISSIOIl IIIIIlJTBS SJSl"ul'Il>I5R 21, 1992 14 - c: c: <: -, --" Bob Temple, San Bernardino College District, 441 West 8th Street, San Bernardino, CA, recalled previous actions that were taken regarding this item, and stated he was under the impression that Main Street was currently under EDA. He felt the staff recommendation should be approved. c Rich Plastino, Local Property Owner, stated he came to San Bernardino in 1986 and has since renovated approximately 4 buildings. He spoke on past experiences working with Ann Harris and indicated the progress thats been made since she has been the program manager. Commission Member Hernandez asked Mr. Plastino if he felt the Main Street goals and objectives would differ if under EDA. Mr. Plastino stated that the goals would be affected if under a government entity. Rod Mac Donald, RANCON, stressed the need to work downtown, indicating that if the care of downtown dies, the City dies. He stated that the project manager of Main Street influenced him to become interested in downtown and has since been very helpful. He emphasized that Main Street primarily benefits downtown, while EDA tries to benefit the entire City. He urged the Commission to make a decision based on the consideration of all parties involved. IlECESSED MEETIIIG Chairman Holcomb recessed the meeting of the Community Development Commission until 2:00 p.m. MEETIl'IG IlECORVEDED At 2:25 p.m. the meeting of the Mayor and Common Council and the Community Development Commission was called to order by Chairman W. R. Holcomb in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL CAT.T. Roll call was taken with the following members present: Chairman W. R. Holcomb; Commission Members Esther Estrada; Jack Reilly; Ralph Hernandez; Michael Maudsley; Tom Minor; Valerie Pope-Ludlam and Norine Miller. Absent: None. STAFF PRESElft' Timothy C. Steinhaus, Administrator, Economic Development Agency; Kenneth J. Henderson, Executive Director, Development Department; Dennis Barlow, Senior Assistant City Attorney; Lorraine Velarde, Executive Assistant to the Mayor; Phil Arvizo, Executive Assistant to the Council; Melanie Vale, Deputy City Clerk; and La Vonda Pearson, Recording Secretary, Development Department. JOIft IlEGULAlt MEETIIIG KJ1I:bIp:2408B CO!IIIISSIOB IIIBUTBS SJld.Ba4I\D 21, 1992 - 7 - J" -' ,~ ,... (: (~ r- '-' OTIIBRS I. A'I"I'IlIIIlAIlr.R - -- Carol Baker, The Sun Newspaper. 8. MAl. STIlft'r BUDGBT (Colllll1mitv Develo1lllent Co_ission) Commission Member Estrada felt Main Street would be more beneficial if kept separate from the City and discussed the problems that could occur if Main Street became part of EDA. She reviewed the budgets submitted by EDA and Main Street indicating that Main Street was making a serious effort to address all the concerns of the City, and that EDA was kept apprised of all its activities. Commission Member Estrada made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Miller that the Main Street program be kept independent of EDA and that the newly revised budget in the amount of $417,000 be approved for the 1992/1993 fiscal year. Commission Member Maudsley commented on the expense portion of the budgets questioning the amounts. Commission Member Hernandez made a substitute motion, seconded by Commission Member Maudsley to appoint Commission Member Minor and Commission Member Maudsley to meet with the Main Street board to discuss and solve the City's concerns. Discussion ensued regarding clarification of Commission Member Hernandez's motion. Commission Member Pope-Ludlam suggested that the Main Street Board be composed of members appointed by the Commission. Chairman Holcomb spoke briefly on this item giving his comments regarding the necessity to have someone oversight Main Street funds since they are 99~ public funds. He stated its goals and objectives would not change if under EDA. Commission Member Hernandez withdrew his substitute motion and asked for clarification on the salaries for Main Street. JOlft RKGULAR MDTIlIG rJH:lIIIp:2408B COIMISSIO. MIlIUDS SKrrKftDBR 21, 1992 - 8 - liV -' (: (: <: c .'"""\ -.-i salary plus benefits equaled Ms. Harris stated that her total $96,908. Mr. Steinhaus clarified that the budget documents being reviewed were working documents which included Ms. Harris' inputs and were not EDA's recommendation for a proposed budget. He gave examples of reductions that could be made to the budget if under EDA. Commission Member Estrada made a substitute motion, seconded by Commission Member Miller that the Main Street program be kept independent of EDA, that the newly revised budget in the amount of $417,000 be approved for the 1992/1993 fiscal year and that the Main Street Board be appointed by the Commission. The motion failed by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: Commission Members Reilly; Maudsley; Minor. Abstain: Commission Member Hernandez. Absent: None. Commission Member Maudsley made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Reilly to ratify its prior action maintaining Main Street program expenditures at the FY 90/91 budget levels, formally incorporate the Main Street program into the Economic Development Agency, approve items 1-7 set forth in detail in the attached staff report and instruct staff and agency counsel to take any and all steps necessary to expeditiously accomplish the intent of this motion. Discussion ensued regarding this motion and the changes that would be implemented if approved. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor. Noes: Commission Members Estrada; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 9. POLICE FACILIT!' IlBI!IOVATIOlf lColllllUllitv Develo--t COIDission) Commission Member Hernandez made a motion, seconded by Commission Member Reilly that this item be continued for 2 weeks. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commission Members Estrada; Reilly; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Noes: None. Abstain: None. Absent: None. 10. ADJ01JIllII TO CLOSED SESSIOlf There were no items for discussion in closed session. JOIBT REGULAI IlEETIlIG lOll: llllJl2408B COIMISSIOB MIBlITES Sarr~ 21. 1992 - 9 - /" __'~ c -.. - 11. ADJOtIRRMDT '" ., At 2: 30 p.m., the Regular Meeting of the Mayor and COlDIDon CO\Dlcil , '" and the Co_unity Development Co_ission was adjourned to 1Io11da7, October 5, 1992 at 11:00 a.m., in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. Respectfully Submitted, Kenneth J. Henderson EXecutive Directorl Secretary to the COlDIDission ". ,... , ,... JOlft RBGlILAll MDTIKG ltJJI:bIp:2408B - 10 - COIIIISSIOB MIlIlTBS SKrr~ 21, 1992 4 ,II' '''' r "" c: c - ....,1 IlAYOR A1ID COIRl. COUB'CIL A1ID TUB CUl'ft.JII.Lfi DBVBLOPIIBlIr COIlIIISSIO. OF TUB CUY OF SD R'RU'AIInIIIO III.urIS ADJOUlnuw UGULAR IIDTIlIG Septeaber 29. 1992 9:00 A.II. The Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council and the Community Development Commission. was called to order by Chairman W. R. Holcomb, at approximately 9:03 a.m., on Tuesday, September 28, 1992, in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL roi'.I. Roll call was taken with the following members present: Chairman W. R. Holcomb; Commission Members Bsther Bstrada; Ralph Hernandez; Michael Mauds1ey; Tom Minor; Valerie Pope-Ludlam and Norine Miller. Absent: Commission Member Jack Reilly. srAFF PRBSDT Timothy C. Steinhaus, Administrator, Bconomic Development Agency; Kenneth J. Henderson, Executive Director, Development Department; James Penman, City Attorney; Brnie Wilson, Affirmative Action Officer; Phil Arvizo, Bxecutive Assistant to the Council; Rachel Clark. City Clerk; Melanie Vale, Deputy City Clerk; and La Vonda Pearson, Recording Secretary, Development Department. Il'MI'R1lS I. J.'l"l"RlmA1Ir.R Carol Baker, The Sun Newspaper. 1. LOS PADRIIIOS CAE 111Iu:ulII.LO. PROGRAM (lIavor and C~ Cnnn,.ill lC.-nnftv Deve1o_ent C---fssion) Councilman Hernandez made a motion, seconded by Councilman Minor that this item arose after the posting of the Agenda. Councilwoman Bstrada expressed concern over the manner in which items were coming before the Council for review. She inquired as to why the item was of urgency. ClMIISSIO. IIIImTBS S~rr~ 29. 1992 ADJOUlnuw IlBGOLAR IIDTIlIG It.JII:bIp:2418B - 1 - I); ,; , ,..- , , \... , , \...- - c ,...... -' The motion carried by the followina vote: Ayes: Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludhm; Miller. Noes: Estrada. Abstain: None. Absent: Councilman Reilly. Council Members Councilwoman Councilman Hernandez stated he had this item placed on the agenda after he was notified that the Redevelopment Committee denied the request for fundina with tax increment funds. Councilman Hernandez explained that Los padrinos was workina very actively in the community and they were hopina to reach two more gangs. However, he indicated that the program was runnina out of fundina and needed assistance. Councilwoman Pope-Ludlam questioned where the money would come from to fund the project. Kenneth J. Henderson, Executive Director, Development Department, briefed the Council on the discussion and action taken at the Redevelopment Committee on September 24, 1992. He stated after further research for fundina was conducted, staff recommended that the Collateralized Mortgage Obligation (CMO) funds that were transferred to the General Fund in June, be returned to the Agency, and that the income from the Shand in Hills Golf Course be used to replace CMO funds taken from the General Fund. Councilman Maudsley questioned the use of the funds in the City limits, and asked if the Shandin Hills Golf Course funded any other debt for the Agency. Mayor Holcomb stated those funds were unencumbered and could be used without any problems. Councilman Minor asked if the City of San Bernardino was the only participant fundina this project. Councilwoman Estrada expressed concern over other non-profit organizations wantina funds. She felt if we fund this project, the Council would be subject to fund other organizations in the future. Councilman Hernandez made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Pope-Ludlam to transfer $200,000 in Collateralized Mortgage Obligation funds to the Economic Development Agency with $71,000 of such funds to be used to finance the Los Padrinos Gang Intervention Program. Further, that the Community Development Commission appropriate and transfer to the City, on a one-time only basis $200,000 in Shand in Hills Golf Club Rental income. Councilman Maudsley asked if the Los Padrinos program had executed an agreement for the funds previously allocated, and also if they submitted a budget. ADJOURlUD IlBGlJLAR MEBrIBG K.JB:bIp:2418B - 2 - COIMISSIOB IIIRlITBS SarrAftDAK 29. 1992 /); '" ,/ (: c. - c -- .~ Councilwoman Miller questioned when the Community Block Grant (CDBG) funds would become available. Development Mr. Henderson indicated that the process to receive those funds would begin in January. Tim Gergen, Executive Director, Los Padrinos, stated on April 3, 1992, a budget was submitted to the Agency for the full amount of $96,000. Councilman Minor expressed concern over San Bernardino being the sole funding source for this program. Councilwoman Miller indicated she had read where the program would be a regional program. Mr. Gergen indicated its future goal was to become a regional program where it could branch out and show other cities how the program can work. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Council Members Estrada; Hernandez; Maudsley; Pope-Ludlam. Noes: Council Members Minor; Miller. Abstain: None. Absent: Councilman Reilly. ITEII ptjr.lm OK TIIB IlAYOR A10l C~K COUIICIL A_A DEVELOPIUllI'l COD. DmlIIA'11UO: #92-08 Mavor Jlftd C -a Conn.-il This item referenced the Savon Drug Store being constructed in the West Side Plaza shopping center. The drug store is trying to obtain its liquor license but is experiencing difficulty due to the size of the store; therefore, the current ordinance needs to be amended in order for them to obtain said license. The motion read: To delay the requirement for a conditional use permit for businesses in excess of 15,000 square feet where alcohol sales are not the principal use. Councilwoman Pope-Ludlam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Pope-Ludlam that said ordinance be laid over for final adoption. The motion carried by the following vote: Ayes: Estrada; Hernandez; Maudsley; Minor; Pope-Ludlam; Miller. Councilman Reilly; Abstain: None. Absent: None. Council Members Noes: ADJ01lIUUW RBC:ULAR IIDrI1lG ClI:bIp:24l8B -3- CCRlISSIOK IIIIlUTBS SKrr~ 29, 1992 Ib I" " ",. c:: (: 2. - ~ &n.T0I1IIW TO CLOSED SESSIOR -, ...~ There were no items for discussion in Closed Session. 3. &aT~ At 9:36 a.m., the Adjourned Regular Meetina of the Mayor and Common Council and the Community Development Commission was adjourned to Monday, October 05, 1992 at 11:00 a.m., in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. Respectfully submitted: .ualllU"D J. HIC...RR!lOB BZecative Directorl Secretary to the C~ssion ADJOURlUD REGULAR IIDTIRG r.JB:bIp:24l8B COIIUSSIOR IIIlIUTBS &zrrtRD&R 29, 1992 -4- /h