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Home My WebLink About05-17-1988 Minutes . CIty of San BernardIno, CalifornIa Ha'f17! 1988 ThlS lS the tlme and place set for a Recessed Meetlng of the Mayor and Common Counell of the Clty of San 2ernardlno at thelr Regular Meetlng held on Monday May __, 198B, at 9:04 a,m, ln the Counell Chambers of Clty ~(3.11 ,300 North I!D" Street I San BernardIno, CalIfornld. At b:30 p.m. on Monday, May 10, 1988, CouncIl Member Mlnor made a motIon. seconded by CouncIl Member ReIlly aIld unanImously carrIed. tha~ the mee~lng be recessed untIl :':i)O a.m. on Tuesday, May 17, 19J8, In the ~ouncll Cnamber.:: of CIty Hall, 3uu North '1[/' St,reet, San BernardIno, Ca~lfcrrlla. 'rhe Recessed MeetIng of the Mayor and Common CouncIL ~i the CIty of San BernardIno was called to order ny Mayor ~llccx 3t ~:04 ~i.m. i on Tuesday, May 1'], lS>:~ ~n the ~ounc~l Chambers c~.f Clt~/ Hal~, :::00 North tlI'!! Stree-t, :"3.3.n BernardIno l~allfornla. INVOCf."TION . The Invoc3~10n was ]lV~n Lxecutlve ASSIstant to ~he Mayor. r,,' '-, ?lchard BellnecKE, l:?LErj(~~E " ,? ALLEGIANCE Ine Pledq6 ')1 AllegIance was led DY Cauncll MSillDer Flore.': . l~:C'LL CALL kell Call was caken oy Depu~y CIty Clerk ?es3e WIth the tollowlng beIng present: Ma}"or WIlcox; CouncIl Memt'~?rs EeIlly, Fl,~":::'(-:':=: HaudE..ley', HInor. Ml-ller ~ DepuT~V' Cl~:- (~er~ Reese. ADsen~: CouncIl Members Estrad2 Fc)pe-Lud.Lanl; i~lty At~c~rlley Penman: Deputy ':lt~. AdmInIstrator Robbln2 PUBLi. '=:~:;)HMENT,.3 There were r:() pU~LIC :omment3 ; it) PUBLIC HEARING - GENERAL PLAN - LAND USE ALTERNAT~VEG - HII3Hl~ANL AREA - C(jNTINfJED FR0M totAY l,:LjZ:i .L'n:~ .i.S th.:=- f~lflle anG jJlace C':)lltlnued_ to fer nearlDS ~n the ~anQ use 31ternatlvee for the Area.. :t pUr.LlC H19I'113l-1d I: 1.3 ) . P.LannlD,?, ~u::ar'lng on ttl8 Dlrector SIracusa stated ;ener31 P~an lS schedu~ed the tlnal PUbllC for Wednef3d.e."/ - ~ - ::J-.L . ]~ay IH, l~bB, at 5:UO ~ddltlonal testlmony IS '.111 De conducted. chedullng In order to cliJred map to be sent p.m. She stated that after any received, the flnal dellberatlons Sne 5~ressed tt!9 lmportance at meet the deadllne for the orlglnal. to Sacramentc. DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY GRACE ARRIVED At 9:UB a.ill., Deptl~V ;:lty Attorney ~ne CaUDell MeetIng. 13race arrl\red HIGHLAND AREA - AREA NO. U Prlnclpal Planner BautIsta descrIbed Area ~ en the ;!iSP The t,oundarlee-. ar.-e dE. follCJVls: North: ,]outh: East: W'2S1:_ : CIty boundary C2..ty boundar:.' Clty boundary ....,. .ictorla A~.;€r:ue St.aff Recommends AlternatIve HEll, reccffimendatlon, wlth the iollowlnl~ the PlannIng exceptlGn8. ; 'ommissian Recommendatlon 1. f 3R J3l) and west f:ssldentlal Suburnan n~lla,jemen t. The vacant c+ Clty should property located east Creek deSlqnated R2, remain ME HIllSIde . Secommendatlcn TilS dIrectlv north of Mountain deSIgnated RU I hSSldent.:l ~C..l HillSide Management. vacan~ property located Shadows Mobile Home ParK Ul:"bEtn shDuld rem.:'<.ll1 i'1E. ~8commendatlQn J. The V3.can-r:: property ~~~~ted La PralA Avenue 3,t1oulJ r-emal.ll NH ncrthwester l ~/ of t118 termInus. of deSl.:]11ated RS RS~lderlt~dl Suburban HillSide Management. Pecommendatlon 4. The MU, MIxed Avenue soutn of Hlghland Avenue should be IJ=-.e 5_~t~~ri-:J P-31:fl changed to CG, ommerCi31 ]B:h:':!"ai. ter' thc:=:s prc.per"tl8E. that tr'cUi: <;fl :?':'i. ~i1( A' <2:-l';tue. Hr. Cecll Dossett., :",~':72:~ Arroyo 'Jlsta Dr. Hl'jhldHC CA S~~4E" stated ne l.lVe2 In tne area of the Hlgnland l~lllS property. He complainea aoout nigh JerlS1CY 0111(.6. ana tne costs of serVices, such as police serVlce. WhiCh ar"8 n\0re cost:} t:han for slng_Le iamlly \lnlt3. 14r. Dossett suggested that tne proposea apartments Wlll reqlJII8 ~ad:t10rial equ~pmen~ ~11d personnel tor whicl1 the Clt~r l5 unable to prOVIde and WOU1U Qr~w offlcer2 lron1 Q~her 3reas ill the '_.lty where tners ~~ nQ~ ell~)ugh p0l~(~e . ~;J -1 .. -,-".' . .rotectlon now. He recommended that when there IS a eguest ror a new development there should be provlslons o lnclude the cost or serVlces. and recommended a slow rowth polley and a morator~um on hIgh denslty, peclrlcally on apartments. He also recommended that the 'ounell encourage the County Board of SupervIsors to JOIn ~n a slow concrolled growttl policy. Mr. John Stubblerleld, 2258 Bradrord, Hlghland. alltor'nla. asked the CauDell's conslderatlon on LlV~ ~arcelE of land located In the Mt. Shadows area, and ~is.trlbuted documents to the CouncIl. Mr. Stubtlefleld read a CaUDell actlon correspondence :ated February 17, 198"7, WhICh read In part as follows' 'The PlannIng Department was Qlrected to set aSIde the ~l,gnland Area Plan untIl tne proviSlons are made to tae ,eneral Plan and the Clty catcheE up wlth the Hlgnland ~rsa Pl~Il.!' He set Iorth additlonal lnforma~lon that was _Deluded In the handoutE given to the CouncIl regardIng .he H~ghland Area Plan AlternatIve #4 WhICh had been _ecommended to the Council by the CItIzens CommIttee that ~2';ielcpsd thlS pla.n . He asked the CounCl~ to brIng the Higlllallu Are3 ~13I: lilternative #4 bac~ as FlrevIously dIrected and tnat It be ~nccrporate(1 as th8 C:lty? preterred alternatIve. He ~sked for one exceptIon to thIS request, WhICh relates t.e ._~t:e .La.nG on tne e3Sc. SIte cd' ;:';,r::ate H19!lWay 33u. He statea tna~ he was In complete agreement WIth ~:~3if and the PlannlDq CC)rnmlSSlon's reCOffimenaatlorl ~,_:~ '1lxed Use for the parcel2 of land at the entrance to the 1t. 3hadows area. MAYOR WILCOX EXCUSED At 0:20 a.m. Maver WIlcox left tne meetlIlg ano :ouncll MemDSI" FloreE assumea the duties of Mayor Pro r8iTlpOre. The second area ~hat Mr. Jtubblefleld addressed is a small strip of land Just north of the Mt. Shadows MOLlle Homs l?3.rk that r"u.ns to the Forest Ser\l:Lc:e bound':lry. He state6 that Staff had recommended thlS area as Hlllslde ~anagement. !he PlarlnlIlg CommlSSlon subsequently ieslgnated thIS parcel RU to accommodate lts belng an ~xtenslcrl of tIle mobile home park. :le stated they are in ~greement WIth the Flannlng Commlsslcn's recommendatlon. :ind .::tdL:~:d tt) le.:"ve It. l.n Hl..LlE,lde Management Hould rellJ.er ~.t useless. . =, -- 1. 7 - ,'; t~ . The thlrd area is located on on the flat land above -he Clty Creek Channel on the east slde of State Hlghway : 30. Staff had recommended thls property for the Hlllslde j,anagement category also. Mr. Stubblefleld stated that ~he property lS not hlllslde, lt lS relatlvely flat. The _ lannlng CommlSSlon deslgnated the land R3 for up-scale Elngle famlly detached homes. Wlthln a few years there \J111 be a four lane freeway on thlS property, WhlCh will ~eave on~y a narrow stretch of land remalnlng for cBveloplng and there wlll some effect from the freeway 1.01SB. He stated he had been told by staff that an RM zone ..ieslgnatlcn is more sUltable for thls level of n0158 ~han _ slngle family detached deslgnatlon and allows rleXlbllity to mltlgate nOlse problems, He stated they are asklng the Councll to deslgnate thls la~u RM even though RM deslgnatlon is an unpopular one. Mr. Stubblefleld stated thlS lS property whlch has ~lrtually all the infrastructure ln place. An RM use ieslgnatlon would also provlde close proxlmlty to a freeway and thlS is the exceptlon he requested to the East Highland preferred alternative #4. . Mr. Stubblefield stated that the 250 acres located lmmedlately north of the Mt. Shadows Vllla proJect has been recommended to be Hlllslde Management. This prcperty alone represents 15.63% of all the vacant R-1, 10,800 land ~n the entlre Clty of San BernardlDo WhlCh could possibly accommodate up-scale houslng and lS belng recommended for standards so severe that they could not bUIld on ttllS property. He stated there are 1638 acres of land ln the :5%-30% slope category. Mr. Stubblefleld demonstrated varIOUS slopes and showed plctures of a subdlV1S1on 1n Beverly Hllls w1th a slope that exceeds 30%. He stated that the 15%-30% slope 15 not exceSSIve, Mr. standards land to a Stubblef1eld statsd that the proposed that allow one unlt per 40 acres, reduces this Yleld of SlX UIllts for denslty trarlsfer. He stated that thlS des1gnation amounts to open space use because of the standards. He spoke of the need 1n the C1ty for more up-scale hous1ng, but noth1ng 1S be1ng done to obta1n 1t. He referred to a study that lnd1cated that the C1ty should select a large parcel of h1lls1de land speclflcally 1n the foothllls and designate 1t for upscale hous1ng and that the C1ty should use 1tS powers to encourage quallty develcpment. . - 4 - 5-17-00 . He a~sc aSKed 101 conslderatlon on the Mt. Sh3GOWS 'llla ProJec~ 3130 ~nown as ReVlew of Plans No. ~b-51. HE ~.tated that thelr request ~~ to proceed accordlng t~) ;reVlOUS CourlCll cilrectlon of tl18 preparation uf a focused ,:lR on trns proJect and requested that the land use ~e::,lqn..:t"t:Lon De left III -:I. mannel.- tiL'tt:. .3.1iu'l'.1s that proJeCT:: p.o go Iorwara. Even tllOUgh mu~tl-famliy dwellIng UDlt3 -~re [If:t ~ pGpu~ar form of hcuslng teday, the Clty must ;'lan ahead for the antlclpated populatIon growth. ThlE ~ana has ~ne comLlilatlon of lc)Catlon, ~ew~ aCid infr-astructure WhICh theIr company had provIded. He :equ~sted the S011DCll ]rant the tlexlblllty (:r pr'OV,LUlnj ~he communIty wIttl hIgh qualIty housIng bY adoptll1] tn~ ~3St Hlghlana CZ)IOrrtlt:teels Al(err15!lVe;1 wIth th~ 2xceptlon c~ the area Just east uf HIghway 33(1, . '~:h3..tl.es. .:,cLul;'~-, ',f F\,ei.d C~ Hell":/er: 5'j'~: N. }\r'ro'^:l1tSac.. Avenu~, Sa11 Berllardlrlo represenL1I1S HIghland HI1~2 ~)rcpert,les I fer WIllIam Leonar'd aflCl iNa.rner ilcdji,iun I .=1.,~:'.~~~3:.l :01' clar'lflcatlcn on one pOInt, He staten tnat Lhey had ;r'SVIOUSIY dSKed that ~:lS property 0e deSl,}rlated ~urS~ldlit o the SpeCIfIc P~an 8~-1 thae lS already adopted aoe ;:'elter.:s.led t.hat rE:<juesr..:, ThG V_I f-.'::-l.. -~' .J-!l Ciu.e;~t.lC-!l ~lE ':ieslgnated HIllside Manageiilent on t.ile far eaE.tern enJ. of '_tlS ':ltj!. He requ.f.::,;::.ted ,2, cla.rJ.,tlc;atl-:::)l! '::cnc~.:LnlLl'j PC.ii.C,,- ~tenj 4?J 111 tG2 Draft lnt.erlln POlIC)! IJocument W:i~,:I~ :~.tat2;:: : "Development W_LChl!: ~he Hl0h~ana Hllls ~pecll~c t'~ali ~le3 shall be subject to envlrol1mental r'eVlew pursuant to ~E0A because of tne length (~t tl~1e WlllCh has ~as~ed SlDce :he adoptIon of tile plan and certIficatIon of the Elf ana ;),,=-~cau.sE::: of ,::::nan'3ec-, to the pro Ject. I' Mr. Schu~tz stated that lt would appear POlICY statement thst 10J woula reI'mlt ~ne :UF's, whIcn were approved 1n December 1~8J. ~lthou~ any iu!.t~hEr' eIIVlrODil1811taJ reVlew. from triot 2xl~t1.n':::f to proceed F'.lannlLj DIrect.or Clracusa answereo. qUEE-tlons, 3L3t.lnq that ~,he Lntent was tha:~ wltlLLf1 the El'Jlllan.d ~llj~ Speclilc Plan 5re5 that anythIng that was a~pr'oved w0ula be able cc 'JO forwa=d but wou~d !)e SU0Jec~ to r1ew ':EQA reVIew becaUEe the ErR IS rathe~ ell and there ffilght ~e new ~ilfur~idtl'JI1. MI'. ,!cnult~ asked fer clarlflcatloIl ')D tile two :1]~3 that were adoptEd In December. 1987 and If they woul~ l::e perm~tted to pr'oceed wltnout further envlron~,sr~~al reli12W DeceU2,e of the negatIve decl.aratlunE that were 1.:::sue(,.).3.t~ n.J, t- '_ .lHi'V . . ~t-l ',' ~ :..,:; . F'iannlng [!lrect(~r ~lraCUSa sZ.3ted that If there ale ':CO chanqe.s from tl1t~ 0ru:1 ("'C i~ tha t \iJ'~'_S apprc)ved. by ':";Up, tne<;: aUla proceea, but U~l the bal~n(-e of tne proJect tne~: 'Juuld. 'dan t to :::,val.:J.:l. le Wild t J. '.- prGp0SeU a.nu. .J.eter iTl 1 Ii,":': wnetner or not tri2 0r19~Dal ~l.R W3~ adequate. Other'wlse. :18W lnlt.l6.l f::-tudy !;ll~frlt.. ~)e .C:2'.qUl cea. , Mr. Schultz asked -'ilVlronmerital requlrements :-,roceed. qU".='_lOIl.= and \'11.1';: t v/ould reg.:tra.1Dg tbe be requl!"ell tc' ~lannlng Dlrec~or SlraCUSd dllswered que2t~CG~, ~tatlG0 that the liltent was to make ~. determlnatl()~-; Ahether' or not the OI'l'::flnal en-'-:l.r'~:nmeIltal ;'v':Jr}: 3.ddre.ss,~(~ :he lssues. If It 16 cur-rent ~i~d nothlrlg has cnanged. :11el1 It ll16Y be deter-illlIled ". .\t~ exempt. If l~ dC8SI1'r address all tl~e current lSSU8S, would be requ1red t() 90 ..hr'Gu-jD the CEQA pl(;'Ce~'.:: ~~11t:-_..:.. :.:at.ed sne \-JuU.J.-d I.l.,:-:'."_~ ~ev~ew the whole p~an ~{j deteIl!i~ne 15 a dlscretlollary Qerin~[ would be r'equlred, Mr. Schult3 requ~6ted that :()lldltloD 49J De delst:~(i lie stated De beileved theIr ElF was still adequa~s ana .11dt the -cwo :~,UP';::. \-J01..Ll..::i be d...l._l,,:wed 'to pr:CC0,;,,~u \"'lj:,lu.,U~.~ Iur-tlier environmental reVlew. he expressed concern -ci13~ ~I an addlC:'CLI::"l '':~JP cr c.i1ango::.- ::::on8 .ill a c.ne sf~'c': _;.::.:..(' .Len9tny an:..;. . Fe ere ..l.S needed that It m.s,y 2:."equlle lionec8ssary pr'oc~ss. ~ne Illterlm POlICY ::e =:Dn::;: 1-2 i'='Sj'l ,_ ',..n. Ul :-,Le He reqlj.e.-~', i- -:,2 ~~h.J t documel1t ri2 d22lqIlated T:nE: a2 1_,._..; ..l..::::'11U .....i.~. c: ()il SF '~.,::-l ::' ~)ec ::.. : l~- F -- ~tri . Mr. Schult= 3Iiswer'ed qU22_..l.0n2 regardlng peGGlDj ;"ll~l'J:1.__l"~"ii, .:..-J.nd :::~'::::'1t8ct the,! ~i.;~(). lld,j. seme c,,-,nVel:2..~I'::_:.,-,n.= \..,11 tll the F :1.,::',11 ane. G3.I~-te D8pa r-tmen. :ce'}:-:.rCllD'-0 C leanln'j' \._"_\ ,_ .3, d_~'dj_J.;'dge cnafli101. He ,:;.t3.t"="f.l '.:~.;-. ~l:e url:j.~{!z.1.1 ETI~ ',,_,)"_~,-:. pr-ovlde for t.be :v::-()[eCf~.l"'n (:1 '~>y_,_~: Creet:. ~'l.3.nnln0 :_l:,_'c:.-~'cru..:: :>.l..I.'.'lC:1.l:,C,d. ::tnswered yues'-::.I.'u.n::: E.t.s.t':Ul'j tli6t ::;:',tafi: would ofJf.)();:'~ removln9 the CUnc.~l t.:...i()lL reld'=.ln.-.j:o thl~- ma.~:ti-.:.E:' froiii U"U::, ll1terli1l p()llCi.e~.. ',,<h :2i ~~ tl-lE:'l"'2 1;:: enc'u,~.U ne'y! lnfc:rrnd.-::'lon"tD Harrant. dl 102-3.21 ~ll LQltldl study ~DQ th~t ~he )~bllC stlOU1U Ildve ~11~ uppcrtuljlty to i':n()We:I .1'";;: l:ll}..=--."_'"--- and to ada.:re:::-,;: t.nt:' '.:{Jmml.G3i:){1 :'inu.. Uld I_JUI.\..:" 1...l. 11 ~_ _ L~ apf.H;::;d.1.8v. '~)il Lll,:':;.:-, V,3.':':. ~_.:::" ~teve ~ve~.~. i~0n5ult3nc w~tll Er1VlCOITl, stated ll€ i~lL :-Le Issue uf HIllSIde developrne:it 1n San Bernarc11l'lJ l~;: ci.s:ir.ly one ':;'1 t.he major t)l;~i.li:l..ln,l.] i.3SUeS fcJ~:J.n':3 tne; Clty tnat came abou~ as a react10.~ tu safety 311d lla~ar~ . - 6 - 5-17-88 . Lssues and some esthetlc conslderatlons In Shandin Hllls ~nd eastern part of the foothills. There lS concern about nass gradlng, especlally In the San Bernardlno mountaln tOOthllls and fire and selsmlC condltlons that produce )reater danger when those problems occur wlth lncreased olopes. It was hls opinion that HlIlslde Management does ~llow up-scale houslng because the speclallzed ~equlrements provlde for carefully planned archltectural ind gradlng technlques. Plannlng Dlrector Siracusa answered questlons, ceferred to a slope density chart whlch explalned how Jnlts could be bUllt under the slope density formula. and many A dlScussion ensued regarding slope densltleE and dhat lS done In other cltles. Mr. Cecll Dossett expressed concern about the lack of reglonal parks in thls area, and stated the Clty Creek ~rea would be an ldeal place to locate such a park. . Jacquellne Hamllton, 28633 Arroyo Vlsta Dr. , Highland, CA 92346, stated she was In favor of uSlng the land for a reglonal park. If that was not feaslble, she expressed support for lower density housing because of the posslbllity of another fire causlng danger and destructlon slmllar to that of the Panorama Flre that occurred about : 1 'Ie year". ago. Caunell Member Mlller [oads a motlonl seconded by ~ouncil Member and unanlmously carrled, that the publlC ~8aring be closed. The Councll dlscussed the proposed deElgnations lD the Hlghland Area. Council Member Maudsley made a motlon, seconded by Councll Member Rellly and unanlmously carrled, that In ~dditlon to the staff reco~mendations on the parcel that LS zoned for apartments at Boulder and Highland Avenue, that a line be drawn wlth Orchld, progressing eastward - 30nlng the south slde of that Ilne CG, and the north side lU, wlth the provlslon that Orchld could be extended stralght across, and wlth the understandlng if Piedmont were extended, the dlstrlbution may change a Ilttle. Council Member Maudsley made a motlon, seconded by Councll Member Mlnor and unanlmously carrled, that the parcel north of Pledmont, east of Cactus be zoned RS. (Prevlously 30ned MH) . , - . - S-l'l-uU . Deputy Clty Attorney Grace answered questlons regarding a letter from the law flrm of Hill, Farrer, & Burrlll regarding a potential lawsult. She stated It wouldn't be approprlate to comment on pendlng Iltlgatlon ct this tlme. As to the possibility of future lawsults, ,ony property owner who feels aggrieved by thlS process could challenge the plan. Basically, as long as there IS adequate eVldentlary basls upon which to Justlfy any of the density Ilmitatlons belng proposed, she felt recommendatlons that staff has made wlll stand legal challenge. Councll Member Maudsley made a motlon, seconded by Councll Member Minor. that: 1. The Hest of Clty should remaln vacant property located east of SR Creek designated RS, Resldential MH, Hillslde Management; 330"nd Suburban 2. The vacant property located dlrectly north of Mountain Shadows Moblle Home Park deslgnated RD, Resldential Urban should remaln MH, Hillslde Management ; 3. The vacant property located northwesterly of the termlnus of La PralX Avenue deslgnated RS, Resldentlal should remaln HM, Hlllside Management; . 4. The MU, Mlxed Use along Palm Avenue south at Hlghland Avenue should be changed to CG, Commerclal General for those propertles that front on Palm Avenue. The motlon council Members Members Rellly. Pope-Ludlam. falled by the Maudsley, Mlnor. Flox'es. Absent: followlng vote: Ayes: Mlller. Noes: Councll Councll Members Estrada, RECESS MEETING At 10:20 a.m., the meetIng recessed for a flve mlnute break. RECONVENE MEETING At 10:40 p.m., the Recessed Meetlng of the Mayor and Common Council reconvened In the Councll Chambers of Clty Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardlno, Callfol'nra. . ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by Deputy Clty Clerk Reese wlth the followrng being present: Mayor Pro Tempore Flores; Councll Members Rellly, Flores. Maudsley, Minor, Miller; Deputy Clty Attorney Grace, Deputy Clty Clerk Reese. Absent: Mayor Wrlcox; Councll Members Estrada, Pope-Ludlam; Deputy Clty Admlnlstrator Robblns. - b - 5-17-88 1 . Councll Member Maudsley made a motlon, ouncll Member Mlnor that: seconded by 1, The vacant property located east of SR 330 and west of Clty Creek be deslgnated RS, Resldentlal, and ~equlre Speclfic Plan; 2. The vacant property located dlrectly north or Mt. Shadows Mobile Home Park remaln RU for moblle homes only ~nd requ1re a Condiclonal Use PermIt, to allow tlme to ~ook at the envIronmental Issues; 3. The vacant property located northwesterly of the cermInus of La PralX Avenue deslgnated RS, Resldential, should remaIn MH, Hlllslde Management; 4. The MU, Mlxed Use Highland Avenue should be General for those propertIes along Palm Avenue south of changed to CG, Commerclal that front on Palm Avenue. The motIon carrIed by the follOWIng vote: Ayes: CounCIl Members ReIlly, Maudsley, Mlnor, Miller. Noes: Council Member Flores. Absent: Councll Members Estrada. Pope-Ludlam. . PUBLIC HEARING - GENERAL PLAN - LAND USE ALTERNATIVES - DEL ROSA AREA - CONTINUED FROM MAY 6, 1988 This 1S the tlme and place contInued to for a publlC hearing to conslder the proposed General Plan Land Use Alternatlves In the Del Rosa Area. (lb) Warner Hodgdon, 3295 Broadmoor BernardIno, referred to the follOWIng prevIously been entered Into the records Clty Clerk: Boulevard San letters whlch had and flIes of the 1. March 25, 1988, concernlng the General Plan update, (I) Alternatlves A, B, and C, clrculatlon contInUIty wlth land uses, State College UnlversIty; (2) Clrculatlon (Roads and Freeways) continulty wlth Land Uses. (3) SLate College (UniverSIty) General Plan HarrIson Freeway and Circulatlon Plan Element. 1. March 28, 1988, concernIng General CAC (1) Freeway Rt. 30/330 at Highland Avenue; Rt. 18 (HarrIson Freeway) from Rt. 30 North Avenue; (3) MH Hlllslde Management Definltlons. Plan Update (2) Freeway to Waterman Flrst Draft . Mr. Hodgdon read a letter dated AprIl 13, laS8, concernIng the State College Area General Plan - General - 9 - 5-17-88 ~ . Plan Update - (1) Freeway Rt. 18 (Harrison Freeway) ,aterman Avenue - Interim Rt. 18; (3) Old Arrowhead ind Contiguous Land. ( 2 ) Road Attachments to thiS letter included: Current State ~as been amended 12 1982; College Area General Plan Map, WhiCh times through May 31, 1966 to June I, The City General Plan Map, received February 10, 1986, lndlcatlng under the sectlon entltled "General Plan Jpdate", amended August, 1984, lncludes through Amendment A-4; The current General Plan Map lndlcatlng under the oectlon entitled "General Plan Update", amended Aprll, ,986, lncludes through Amendment 86-2; The East San Bernardino - Hlghland General ~ortlon of the General Plans of San Bernardino :ounty, adopted December 15, 1975; Plan - A City and . Mr. Hodgdon requested that the Old Arrowhead Road Area as adopted ln the State College Area General Plan be incorporated lnto the recommendations for the new General Plan Update for the City of San Bernardlno. Mr. Hodgdon stated that approxlmately 85% of chlS communlty is bUllt out wlth about 15% remalnlng, but 100% )f the attention 1S gOlng to the 15% remaining land and not to the 85% already bUllt. Of that 85%, much lS :reeping blight which is hard to address and takes a lot 0f work. The real effort is addressing the 85% and ~oldlng back the deterioratlon. Mr. Hodgdon stated there has been talk about much Jrowth in San Bernard1no, but the facts show that in 1987 chere was less than a 5% growth in San Bernardlno and a 11% growth in Ranoho Cuoamonga. The b1g growth has been ln older homes that have changed hands and are now multiple family homes. It was hlS oplnlon that the blg lmpact on the communlty and the School Dlstrlct comes from the impact of the multl-use ln the older areas. The maJorlty of the crlme lS not ln the perlmeter and the new areas. It is in ~he in~ernal, older areas. R1Ck Lazar, 248 E. Hlghland, San Bernardlno, CA, a ~eal estate broker. was present to represent a client and :0 address the proposed MH Hlllslde Management ieslgnation for his cllent's property. He stated that he . - 10 - 5-17-88 . felt the MH desrgnatron was rather restrictive rn terms of allowable density for developers wrshrng to burld in thrs area. The MH desrgnation allows 2 unrts per acre rn the _5% grade or less, then as the slopes become more evere, r tallows vrrtuall y very II ttle, rf any, <:evelopment, which is overly restrrctrve for hrs clrent's roperty. Mr. Lazar stated that hrs clrent has a rectangular ~lock of 45 acres north of Piemont. south of Hemlock, 'lenerally gorng north to south. Out of the 45 acres there Rre between 15 and 17 acres whrch have a slope of Rpproximately 8% - 9% grade. Under the proposed MH designatron, that would allow only approxrmately 34 Louses. . Mr. Lazar requested that they be allowed to go under ~he RL designatron whrch would be one to three unrts per Rcre. They would hope to develop it so that the one to ~hree unrts would go in at the generally 8% grade areas _eavrng the more severe slopes unbuilt because of the concerns that have been addressed, If the three un1ts "llowed were burlt on 15 acres they would have 45 houses clustered rn the n1ce areas, then leave the less buildable ,-,reas alone. . Mr. Lazar ~n question 1S Eill. and rs a answered quest1ons, stating that 1n the area popularly known as highly desirable area. the area Holcomb Mr. Lazar commended the Plann1ng Department ~hBrr hard work on the proposed General Plan. he was not questrornng the fact that they are an EIR and Specific Plan, as he felt that these chat need to be addressed. staff for He stated requestrng are thlnojE. He also expressed concern about ~he small developer tryrng to do a nrce development and then frnd1ng the denslty standards too restrlctive. He stated he didn1t want to see San Bernard1no lose developments to nerghbor1ng crties, and the Crty should make it economrcally feasrble for developments to occur here, wlthout severe restr2ctions. . Plann1ng D1rector Srracusa answered questions regarding density, statrng that 1t wrll take severa~ nonths to develop the ordrnance and standards that wrll address the ~ssue. Planning staff will be worklng wlth the consultant and the advisory commrttee to establrsh the ~igures. She stated that for this interrm perrod, they nay be able to set a densrty, but all of the standards that would go rnto that ordrnance may not be avarlable. - 11 - 5-17-8[: . Plannlng Dlrector Siracusa stated If someone wants to '10 forward with a Speclflc Plan they can propose densltles ,nd the Speciflc Plans could be adopted. Speclflc Plans are always amendments to the General Plan. Plannlng Dlrector Slracusa stated that any area 1n Iilllside Management that wants to proceed ln advance of ~he adoption of the Plan would be able to do that by :peclflc Plan. At the tlme the Council reVlews the :~peclfic Plan, a yes or no decision regardlng the density could be made. Ms. Siracusa stated that lt 18 lmportant to understand that the map itself doesn't mean a lot unless :here are pOlicies that tell how the map wlll be used and .nterpreted over the next few months by staff, Councll and he Plannlng CommlSSlon during the time when there is not Gn offlcial General Plan. This would replace the standards .,n~ conditlons that the State has lmposed. . The Plannlng Dlrector stated that the Councll may 1Jant to set a cap lndicating denslty thac mlght be I:onslderably higher than the recommended density. It' E ~alr to set a cap because ~here probably are denslties ~hat the Councll wouldn't want to consider and wouldn't want to encourage a developer to spend money to do a plan ~hat lS deflnltely over the denslty that would be ('onsidered. Councll Member Rellly made a motion, seconded by Council Member Miller and unanlmously carrled, to requeEt chat Plannlng Etatt study what a denslty cap mlght be. COUNCIL MEMBER ESTRADA ARRIVED At 11:10 a.m., Councll Member Estrada arrlved at the Councll Meetlng and took her place at the Councll Table. John Stubblefleld nad questions regarding the preparatlon of a Speclflc Plan. Plannlng Dlrector Slracusa answered questions, statlng that ln the Hillslde Management area during the lnterlm period, If a developer wants proceed, he would have to prepare a Speclflc Plan. She stated lt would be falr to set a maximum cap for Councll conslderatlon. That cap would be higher than perhaps would be adopted later in the foothill management formula wlth all the other standards. ThlS would glve the developer an opportunlty -0 propose somethlng withln a range that might be consldered over the next year. . John Stubblef1eld questloned whether or not the developer or Clty prepared the Speclflc Plan. , " - ..l.":' - 5-17-e,8 . Plannlng Dlrector Slracusa answered questlons, tating that the developer needs to be the one responslble cor preparlng the Specific Plan, but there will be an ,lternatlve arrangement whereby the environmental ~econna1ssance lS prepared first by a consultant h1red by ~he City, The C1ty would develop the scope of work that ~as to be addressed In the Spec1flc Plan. The developer ',ould then hlre someone to prepare the Speclfic Plan. The developer would have to pay the C1ty staff for thelr ~eVlew tlme, but lt would be the developer's Speciflc ?lan. The same envlronmental consultant would complete the ~nvlronmental analysls on the Speclflc Plan ltself, WhlCh 0ives the developer more control of what lS in the Plan .end yet indicates what the plan has to address ln terms of 8nvlronmental factors. Councll Member Maudsley made a motlon, seconded by Louncll Member Reilly and unanlmously carrled. that the ..ear1ng be closed. Council Member Maudsley made a motion, seconded by Councll Member Rellly and unanlmously carrled, that the ';acant property located northwesterly of the termlnus of ~terllng Avenue and Foothill Drlve remain RL, wlth 20,000 "quare ft. lots. . Councll Member Maudsley made a motlon, seconded by Councll Member Rellly and unanlmously carrled, that the 'lacant property located northwesterly of the termlnus of Davld Way deslgnated RS, ReSldential Suburban remaln MH, Hillside Management. ADJOURNMENT At 11: 25 a.m., Councll Member Reilly made a motlon, Eeconded by Council Member Mlller and unanimously carried, 'hat the meetlng be adjourned to 5:00 p.m., May Ib, 1988, ,11 the Counell Chambers. of Clty Hall, 300 North "D" ~treeti San Bernardlno, Callfornla. )Jk~ ~~ Deputy Clty Clerk . - 13 - 5-17-88