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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-12-1988 Minutes . City of San Bernardino, California May 12, 1988 This is the time and place set for an Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San Bernardino at their Adjourned Regular Meeting held on Tuesday, May 10, 1988, at 5:06 p.m., in the Coun- cil Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. The City Clerk has caused to be posted the Notice of Adjournment of said meeting held Tuesday, May 10, 1988, at 5:06 p.m., and has on file in the office of the City Clerk an affidavit of said posting together with a copy of said Notice which was posted at 10:00 a.m., Wednesday, May 11, 1988, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. The Adjourned Regular Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pro Tempore Flores at 5:10 p.m., Thursday, May 12, 1988, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. . INVOCATION The Invocation was given by Phil Arvizo, Executive Assistant to the Council. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council Member Maudsley. ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by Ci ty Clerk Clark wi th the following being present: Mayor Pro Tempore Flores; Coun- cil Members Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow, City Clerk Clark. Absent: Mayor wi lcox; Counc i 1 Member Estrada; Acting City Administrator Robbins. PUBLIC COMMENTS No one came forward to speak ments portion of the meeting. during the public COffi- (A) . 1 5/12/88 . RECESS MEETING - CLOSED SESSION At 5:10 p.m., Council Member Miller made a motion, seconded by Council Member Maudsley and unanimously car- ried, that the Common Council recess to Closed Session pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9 (a) to confer with its attorney regarding pending litigation which has been initiated formally to which the City is a party as follows: (2) Cable Lakes Associates vs. City of San Bernardino Superior Court Case No. 239649. San Bernardino - 238714 and Case CLOSED SESSION At 5: 10 p.m., Mayor Closed Session to order Council Chambers of City Bernardino, California. Pro Tempore Flores called in the Conference Room of Hall, 300 North "D" Street, the the San . ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken with the following being pre- sent: Mayor Pro Tempore Flores; Council Members Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow. Absent: Mayor Wilcox; Council Member Estrada; City Clerk Clark, Acting City Administrator Robbins. ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION At 5: 25 p.m., the Closed Session adjourned to the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San Bernardino. RECONVENE MEETING At 5:25 p.m., the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San Bernardino reconvened in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by City Clerk Clark with the following being present: Mayor Pro Tempore Flores; Coun- cil Members Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow, City Clerk Clark. Absen t: Mayor Wi lcox; Counc i 1 Member Estrada; Acting City Administrator Robbins. . 2 5/12/88 . CLOSED SESSION Mayor Pro Tempore Flores announced that the Closed Session to confer with the City Attorney regarding pend- ing litigation, Cable Lakes Associates vs. City of San Bernardino, San Bernardino Superior Court Case No. 238714 and 239649, which has been initiated formally and to which the City is a party, is continued to later in the evening. (See Page 33 ) (2) GENERAL PLAN REVISION - SETTING OF ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PUBLIC HEARING - HIGHLAND AREA, AREA NO. 9 - DEL ROSA AREA, AREA NO. 10 - PREVIOUSLY HEARD MAY 6, 1988 Ann Siracusa, Planning Director, stated that addi- tional input is needed for the General Plan revision of the Highland Area, Area No.9 and the Del Rosa Area, Area No. 10. (1) The Council agreed to hold a meeting from 9:00 a.m. to Noon, Tuesday, May 17, 1988, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, Cali- fornia, concerning the Highland Area, Area No. 9 and the Del Rosa Area, Area No. 10. . PUBLIC HEARING - GENERAL PLAN REVISION - UNIVERSITY AREA, AREA NO. 11 - VERDEMONT AREA, AREA NO. 12 This is the time and place set on the land use alternatives for Verdemont areas. for a public hearing the University and (1) Ann Siracusa, Planning Director, presented a map of the University and Verdemont areas. UNIVERSITY AREA - AREA NO. 11 Vince Bautista, Principal Planner, described the boundaries of Area No. 11, the University area, which includes the unincorporated portion of the City known as Arrowhead Suburban Farms, and California State Univer- sity, San Bernardino, as follows: (la) North: South: City limits, foothills Southern boundary of Shandin Hills and Parkdale Twin Creek basin 1-215 Freeway, Devil Canyon Flood Control Channel East: West: . 3 5/12/88 . Staff Recommendation 1 dated May 12, 1988 In a staff report dated May 12, 1988, the Planning Department recommends Al terna ti ve "E" as recommended by the Planning Commission without any changes. Woody Tescher, consul tant from Env icom, summar i zed the land use recommendations for University Area No. 11. Discussion ensued regarding between flatlands and foothills. transitional areas In a letter dated May 2, 1988, Sandra L. Caddel, a homeowner on Morgan Road, requested information on grants for low cost loans or whatever help is available to pro- vide for landscaping, exterior and interior home improvements, room aditions, etc. in order to upgrade the existing, older homes in the Morgan Road, Windsor and Kendall Drive area, which will be surrounded by new development. Mayor Pro Tempore Flores opened the public hearing and requested that speakers limit their presentations to five minutes. . Steve Winthrop, a partner with Steve Soares on Ten- tative Tract 13473, located on 48th Street and Little Mountain Drive, stated that the proposed rezoning of this land will decrease its value to one-third of its purchase price two years ago. It is their goal to have the pre- viously approved tentative map reapproved. They have spent over $40,000 in engineering costs. He spoke in support of managing growth, instead of stopping growth, through strict CC&Rs. He further stated that they are not interested in building apartments, although the land is surrounded by multi-family housing. They are interested in building quality four-plexes, with a family environment, which have the interest of the university. Mr. Winthrop spoke regarding the results of slow growth initiatives in other areas of the state. He proposed to assume part of the financial respon- sibility for a box culvert or bridge needed by the City, which is to be constructed partially on their land. They will allow an encroachment on their property for the work, which will increase the City's tax base. The alternative would be for taxpayers to eventually pay for the costs through increased taxes or decreased services. . 4 5/12/88 . Vince Bautista pointed out the area in question on the map. Frank Tracadas, 4151 N. "E" Street, spoke regarding the Arrowhead Suburban Farms area. He requested that the zoning be consistent with the County's R-3-3000 zoning, which allows 12 units per acre, rather than the four to seven as is now proposed. (See action taken on Page 16) Steve Buswell of the Building Industry Association spoke reg ard ing the need for high dens i ty hous i ng. He stated that low density areas can transform into junk- yards. He defined an elitist policy of low density being used to preclude the locating of moderate and low income groups. He answered questions regarding zoning, stating that he feels more thought should be given to the process. . Lisa Piehl, 4854 Al ta Drive, spoke regarding the concerns of the College Park Homeowners' Association in relation to homes on 48th and Sun Valley to the south and Lake Placid Drive to the north. She stated that general commercial building would disturb the Northpark area, which consists of single family residential homes. The area already has traffic problems. She also spoke regarding the high vacancy factor of commercial buildings in the area. Council Member Minor stated that he has spoken with representatives from California State University, who have no desire to oppose the Homeowners Association, and will not be disappointed in whatever zoning goes in that area. Lisa piehl spoke regarding a demographics study she worked on a year and a half ago, stating that over 50% of the college population was over the age of 29 and com- muting with established homes in the area. She fails to see why such a high commercial designation is needed in that area. Woody Tescher answered questions regarding the amount of residences needed to support the proposed com- mercial zoning. He stated that at the present time there is an overage of commercial and industrial designation in the plans compared to market support everywhere in the . 5 5/12/88 . city. He clarified the mixed use classification. He stated that the original intent in the alternatives map was for a mixture of residential with some local support- ing commercial, as in other university environments. M. M. Imming of 1539 Indian Trail, near Kendall and 48th Street, requested the RS zoning not be changed on Alternative E. He emphasized that RS-7200 zoning is needed to provide stability, instead of the transient nature of apartment dwellers. Ernest Riffenburgh, attorney for Block Bros. Indus- tries, the owners of the Shandin Hills project encompas- sing Tentative Tracts 12955 to 12958 and 11328 and the Little Mountain area, spoke regarding their voluntary decrease of the density in the area, because they deemed the economics of the approved dens i ty were not proper. Their plan is less intensive than Alternative C, which was proposed by the Ci ty I S consul tant pr ior to Al ter- native "E" being proposed. He stated that $11,000,000 has been spent to date on infrastructure in the area, bonds are posted, and all grading and off-sites are completed. Construction was ready to start when the building moratorium was imposed. . He spoke regarding the project increasing the value of the area, and up-scale housing planned for this area. Acre lots will not provide attractive open areas, as medium priced homes will be built on a quarter of the acre and the remaining property will go to weeds. He described their project as providing significant open areas, including 48% of the hillside areas, and that Phase II would have closer to 75% open areas. In exchange for being able to retain reasonable suburban densities of 7200 square feet lot sizes, they would dedi- cate the hillside areas as open space, which would be maintained through an Open Space Maintenance District and would not cost the City anything. Mr. Riffenburgh spoke regarding the unclear descrip- tion of Hillside Management. Vince Bautista pointed out the tracts in question on the map. . 6 5/12/88 . Mr. Riffenburgh answered questions regarding the effect of the change of zone decreasing the amount of buildable units, stating that in order to make the pro- ject financially feasible and break even, construction would have to be expanded over the land which they have planned for open space. Woody Tescher explained that Hillside Management would promote cl uster ing of un i ts and the area of thi s project designated for open space could be used for cal- culating yield. It is a possibility that by running the calculation on the total acreage with the same number of un i ts for which it is presently graded, the proj ect may end up with the same number of units. Mr. Riffenburgh answered questions, stating that Tentative Tracts 12955 - 12958 have been graded and off- site improvements have been put in. (This project was discussed later in the meeting - See Page 12) John Edwins, developer, representing University Square, the owner of 2.5 acres located on the southeast corner of University Parkway and Kendall Drive, provided a letter dated May 12, 1988, describing the area. This land is currently designated CN on Alternative "E". . He stated that they are satisfied with the land use zoning, but are concerned with the implementation poli- cies on Page 7, *36, of the "Draft Implementation Policies for Interim Land Use Designations", Part 4. They state that fast food and drive-through restaurants are prohibited in a CN land use designation. Current City policy allows them, on a discretionary basis, in any com- mercial zone. He reported that for several months, they have been negotiating for a high-quality, drive-through restaurant that would compliment the other retail uses proposed for the site. He requested that the land use designation be changed to CG, as this designation does not provide for the prohibition of drive-through restaurants. He described characteristics of the site that sup- port a CG designation, and provided supporting photo- graphs: the si te is in a trade area, surrounded by existing single-family homes and apartments, and just west of the entrance to the university; it is on an intersection of two major arterial highways, providing . 7 5/12/88 . excellent ingress and egress to the si te; the amount of land allows for a variety of uses to serve the neighbor- hood, students commuting to the university and the resi- dents of the Verdemont area; it is over a mi le to the closest, existing commercial services; and the site is large enough to provide more than adequate parking and extensive landscaping. (See action taken on Page lA) In a letter dated 11ay 6, 1988, Stephen L. Pleasant, Principal Planner with CM Engineering Associates, Inc., supported a MU designation on his client's property on the northwest corner of Kendall Drive and State Univer- sity Parkway. He stated that upscale commercial and office uses would be appropriate, including restaurants, professional and business offices, and retail stores, which relate to the university. Alex Hadden, representing John C. Heers, Inc., spoke regarding Tentative Tract 10260 at the corner of Hill and 59th, which has been ready to record for approximately one year, with fees paid and bonds posted. Alternative "E" shows a line through the middle of the tract, desig- nating one portion RS and another Hillside Management. It also shows a City park at the corner of Hill and Acacia. . He stated that they feel drawn without consideration of He requested that the Hillside removed. it is an arbitrary line, splitting their project. Management designation be He described the slopes on the property and average lot sizes ranging between 10,000 and 34,000 square feet. Vince Bautista pointed out the area on the map. Steve Hammond of 21, representing the Street, stated that itself to the area. the Commercial Division of Century owner of property at 550 West 40th the RS designation does not lend He requested that the area be designated General Commercial. It has an existing 24,000 square foot com- mercial building on a 4.83 acre lot. Vince Bautista pointed out the area on the map. Mr. Hammond answered questions regarding the zoning originally being recommended as RS and now the recommen- dation is half RS and half flood control. . 8 5/12/88 . Joy Kolstad, representing the Mt. Vista Homeowners' Association and the San Bernardino Valley Homeowners' Coalition, stated that recommended land use addresses the high density problems of apartments in the area. She requested that the land use alternatives remain as they are concerning apartments. In support of her recommendation, she spoke regarding a research study commissioned by the the Community Development Department of the City, which mentions the high number of apartments in the City, specifically in the Cal State area. She referred to the earlier testimony of Steve win- throp concerning Tentative Tract 13473 and his assistance with the construction of a bridge. (See Page 4 ) She stated that the Redevelopment Agency will be funding a bridge within two months, so further assistance would not have an impact. She sta ted concerns that the area does not have a library. . She referred to the construction of a drive-through restaurant on the corner of Uni versi ty Parkway and Ken- dall Drive, as proposed by Developer John Edwins. (See Page 7) She described it as inappropriate because behind and next to the property are single-family residences, the entrance to the university, and it would create safety hazard. She requested information regarding the Hillside Management designation. Ann Siracusa answered questions, stating staff's recommendation that the Council approve the concept of Hillside Management and that further study needs to be done and an ordinance developed. The Council could adopt the recommended dens i ties. Under the proposed in ter im policies, construction in the proposed Hillside Manage- ment areas would require a Specific Plan. Woody Tescher reported that no new sites have been designated for public facilities, such as schools or libraries, if the sites are not currently owned by the City. He answered questions, stating that the road map of the area will be an overlay on the current map and he is aware of the need for a second entry into Cal State University. . 9 5/12/88 . Ann Siracusa stated that interim policies could be specifically addressed at the meeting scheduled for May 18, 1988, as the Council has not addressed them at this point. David Henck, owner of the property on 40th and John- son, as previously described by Mr. Hammond (See Page8) , stated that his property has been designated commercial for the last twenty years and manufacturing has been done on it. There is an existing commercial building and it is surrounded by commercial on both sides of the property. He requested that the zoning on the property be General Commercial, as there are two interested buyers for the property, as long as it is zoned commercial. Courtney Buse, developer, spoke regarding property located on 40th Street between Mt. View and "E" Street. He stated there is a need for some light industrial designations on small parcels in the north end of town, as the industrial zoning west of the freeway is for large parcels. This would satisfy the needs of contractors, small assembly businesses and existing uses. Mini storage facilities are no longer permitted in commercial zoning and they play an important role in neighborhoods with apartments. . He recommended that this area be MD, which would include RN or RN and IL as a broader use, with develop- men t standards for the area. Str ip commerc ia 1 would be more utilitary and reflective of the types of existing developments. He spoke regarding the Arrowhead Suburban Farms area north of 40th Street, which is in the County and has been multi-family residential for years. Alternative "E" designates the area RS. He felt that the area should have further study to explore alternatives. Lynn Poston, associated with the College Park Home- owners' Association, spoke regarding the vacant field below Northpark Boulevard and above Lake Plac id Dr i ve. She described the project she had been told would be developed in the area when she purchased her home. The area is now being considered for commercial zoning. She requested that the zoning be RS. She opposed a fast food restaurant at the university entrance, and spoke regarding the vacancy factor of the existing commercial buildings in the area. She supports a boycott of proposed businesses in the area. . 10 5/12/88 . Discussion ensued regarding land use in the North- park Boulevard area from University Parkway, west to Little Mountain. The Council clarified that the designation for existing RM units would not be changed. Discussion ensued regarding the from Cajon High School on the south Boulevard being designated RS. vacant lot across side of Northpark Woody Tescher clarified the discussed changes in the area, stating that moving east from the University Park- way area, the first MU would be changed to RS; the next RM would be retained RM because it is existing develop- ment; the next MU would be changed to RS; the next RI\ would remain because it is existing development; the PF wou ld rema in because it is the school, and the next RM would be converted to RS. . He answered questions regarding the original intent of the MU designation having been to create opportuni- ties for small scale commercial development to serve faculty and students at the university, intermixed with residential. The commercial potential has increased, and it was never the intent to carry the commercial down to the existing commercial site mentioned by people testify- ing. The residential component fell out. Ann Siracusa stated that the General Plan Revision Ci tizens Advisory Committee recommended that the MU in those locations be university related, such as small coffee shops, sandwich places, bookstores, etc. There was no specific definition of the uses. Woody Tescher answered questions west of University Parkway being increased commercial opportunity. regarding the recommended area for Council Member Reilly stated that he would abstain from voting on a change in this area at this time as he feels it requires interaction with the university for their recommendation. Discussion ensued regarding representatives of the university having been contacted and they have no objec- tions to the area being designated CG. . Ann Siracusa answered existing apartments in the non-conforming uses. questions, area would stating that the not be considered 11 5/12/88 . Council Member Reilly decided not to abstain on the matter. Council Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Council Member Maudsley and unanimously carried, that on the south side of Northpark Boulevard, between University Parkway and Little Mountain Drive, the two MU designa- tions be changed to RS and the last RM designation at Little Mountain Drive be changed to RS. Discussion ensued regarding the 40th Street area being designated Commercial General or Light Industrial, as RS would be inappropriate on such a busy street. Adja- cent uses in the County area were discussed, along wi th traffic counts in the area. Council Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Council Member Maudsley and unanimously carried, that the northwest corner of 40th Street and Johnson be designated Commercial General. Discussion was held concerning this area being designated Light Industrial in the future and the need for further review of the area. . The Little Mountain Drive area was discussed con- cerning the Hillside Management and RE designations. Woody Tescher answered questions, stating that the developer is requesting that the areas designated RL and RE be redesignated to RS because of the existing pattern of lots in that area. (See statements of Mr. Riffenburgh - Page 6) Dor ian Johnson of Mar lborough Developmen t, a sub- sidiary of Block Bros. and Block Bros. Industries, owners of the property, spoke regarding the Shandin Hills pro- perty. Mr. Johnson stated that they would be dedicating the Hillside Management area with the exception of the de- veloped area on Tentative Tract 12955, which is repre- sented on the map as the area having been graded. He stated that this area has been graded and off- tract improvements have been completed. They are in a position to complete the off-site improvements. . 12 5/12/88 . He noted that the designation of RS at 3.1 to 4.5 units per acre would be sufficient to meet their require- ments and accommodate a 7200 square foot lot project of single-family residences. He answered questions, stating that under the old plan there is a site designated PRD 20 units to the acre, for which the previous owner had a Conditional Use Permit for apartments. Block Bros. is asking for RS on that particular site. He sta ted tha t land use al ternati ves for Lot 1 of Tract 11324, located on Kendall Drive between an existing apartment site and a commercial designation, have not been discussed. If any property were to be designated for apartments, he recommended this be it. The site would hold approximately 150 units. Ann Siracusa answered questions regarding 10,800 lots, stating they would considered as RL. . Dorian Johnson pointed out that in the early pro- cessing of their maps for Tentative Tracts 12955 and 12958, it would have been easy to accommodate those dimensions. The decision was made at that time that instead of subdividing the hillside area to artificially inflate the sizes of the lots to meet the standards, that the hillside area be made open space and put under a maintenance district. The Council requested a map of the area for the next meeting which would show what is already graded. Woody Tescher clarified the discussed recommenda- tions for the area as being that the areas on the map designated RL and RE would be reclassified RS. The boundaries more or less coincide with where grading has occurred. There is an additional road that needs to be changed to reflect the 7200 square foot lots. The MH would remain and would allow some additional density. He recommended that if it is the Council's desire that a condition be placed on the RS designation, a footnote is needed for the MH to show that the densi ty has been transferred to the MH and to the other sites. Dorian Johnson stated that if they reasonable density in the flatter areas they are wi 11 ing to forego cred i t for areas. were granted a of their land, the open space . 13 5/12/88 . Ann Siracusa stated that staff is sensitive to designating land open space. If it is part of the over- all project, they could do that and have it a compatible zone district with the Hillside Management designation, which would retain it in open space and acknowledge the public dedication. Dorian Johnson acknowledged that is what they are offering to do. He described improvements that they have done to the area. Ann Siracusa answered questions, stating that the simplest way to zone the area would be to make it RS with the policy that the balance has to be dedicated as public open space. Discussion ensued regarding the tenance assessment district to take sides. rev iew of a care of the main- hill- . Council Member Reilly made a motion, seconded by Council Member Maudsley, that the request to change the three areas on Little Mountain Drive which are now RL and RE to RS, be approved; and that staff be directed to review the MH designation and draft a footnote for its perpetual maintenance and dedication to the City. The motion Council Members Miller. Noes: Member Estrada. carried Reilly, Council by the following vote: Ayes: Flores, Maudsley, Pope-Ludlam, Member Minor. Absent: Council Woody Tescher answered questions regarding the area being in the highest level of potential fire hazard due to wind and the type of vegetation in the area. He acknowledged that was one of the reasons for the Hillside Management designation. Dorian Johnson stated that fire hazard has been a concern of the development, and they have worked closely with the Fire Department for precautions. Part of the hillside area has an integrated landscaped, irrigated, fire break area in accordance with the specifications of the Fire Department. The plans have been designed, and approved by the Fire Department and the Parks, Recreation and Community Development Department. The financial liability will run with the property. . 14 5/12/88 . John Reding, 322 West 59th Street, spoke regarding the area near 59th Street, north of Hill Drive, which was discussed earlier in the meeting. (See testimony of Mr. Alex Hadden - Page 8 ) He requested that the area be designated Hillside Management, and receive further study. Discussion ensued regarding a meeting being held with the developer and those concerned before a decision is made. It was made clear that some areas need further study and that because action is not taken at this time, it does not mean that it is not going to be taken at a later date. The Council discussed the property located at Uni- versi ty Parkway and Kendall Drive des igna ted CN, wi th a requested change to CG. The need for a fast food restaurant for the students was also discussed. (See testimony of Mr. John Edwins - Page 7 ) Council Member Minor made a motion, seconded by Council Member Miller and unanimously carried, that the southeast corner of University Parkway and Kendall Drive be designated CG for the time being. . RECESS MEETING At 7:12 p.m., the Mayor and Common Council recessed the meeting for a short break. RECONVENE MEETING At 7: 30 p.m., the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council reconvened in the Council Cham- bers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by City Clerk Clark with the following being present: Mayor Wilcox; Council Members Estrada, Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow, City Clerk Clark, Acting City Administrator Robbins. Absent: None. Ann Siracusa recapped the requests and recommenda- tions made thus far at the meeting with regard to the University Area, Area No. 11. Shauna Clark, City Clerk, the request of Mr. Frank Tracadas Suburban Farms area. (See Page 5 reminded the Council of regarding the Arrowhead ) . 15 5/12/88 I . Ann Siracusa answered questions, stating that these long and narrow lots were discussed by the General Plan Revision Citizens Advisory Committee. The entire area in the County allows for 12 units per acre. She stated that this area should have more intensive study. Discussion ensued regarding the dimensions of the lots in the area and the fact that a majority of the area does not have sewers. Council Member Reilly made a motion, seconded by Council Member Flores and unanimously carried, that staff be directed to further study the Arrowhead Suburban Farms area. VERDEMONT AREA - Vince Bautista, boundaries of Area follows: AREA NO. 12 Principal Planner, described the No. 12, the Verdemont area, as (3b) North: South: East: West: City limits, foothills Cajon wash Devil Canyon Flood Control Channel Devore Road . Ann Siracusa, Planning Director, stated that the consultant initially prepared three alternatives for the Verdemont area. Plan A was the least intensive, B was a more moderate plan and C was the most intense. Plan B reflects the existing, adopted Verdemont Plan. The General Plan Revision Citizens Advisory Committee voted unanimously to select Alternative A, and made changes to make densities even lower than the lowest intensity plan prepared. She stated that during the Planning Commission and CAC meetings, it was not determined whether people were specifically referring to the area designated one unit per acre as a holding pattern or as an ultimate final land use. Staff recommends that the area be approached with the idea of designating a final, ultimate land use, not an interim holding pattern. She described the Verdemont area as a major, future growth area and one of the most environmentally sensitive areas of the City. Its zoning must interface with many other components of the General Plan. Alternative "E" is recommended with the following exceptions: . 16 5/12/88 . Staff Recommendation 1 dated May 12, 1988 Parcels located at the northwest corner of Palm Avenue and Little League Drive, and the northeast and southeast corners of Kendall Drive and Palm Avenue, ex- tending approximately 600 feet to the east along Kendall Drive, should be designated CN (Commercial Neighborhood). Staff Recommendation 2 dated May 12, 1988 The two, ten acre parcels currently owned by the San Bernardino City Unified School District should be desig- nated PF (Public Facilities). Staff Recommendation 3 dated May 12, 1988 The area designated MFP (Flood Plan Management) lying north of the I-215 Freeway should, by policy, be allowed to be removed from this designation only upon approval of a Specific Plan, pursuant to Government Code Section 65450. Said Specific Plan shall address the flooding issues associated with Cable Creek, detailing proposed size, location, design, etc. of the creek improvements, as well as other development plans. . Staff Recommendation 4 dated May 12, 1988 The area on the north side of the I-215 Freeway near Devore Road should be changed from IE (I ndustr ia 1 Extractive) to RE (Residential Estate) to correct an error on the original alternative maps. Staff Recommendation 5 dated May 12, 1988 The majority of the vacant, residential land in Verdemont is proposed to be designated RE (Residential Estates) by the CAC and the Planning Commission. The area covered by this designation generally lies west of a line mid-block between Palm and Olive Avenues to the end of Meyers Road, at about Martin Ranch Road, and from the I-215 Freeway northward to the proposed Verdemont Drive. The area encompasses about 730 acres. At the proposed density, this would yield about 730 dwelling units. The Planning Department has some concerns about the use of one acre sized lots as either an ultimate or an inter im in tens i ty for developmen t in Verdemont. I f an "urban" character is desired for the area, one acre par- cels may be too large to financially support certain basic infrastructure needs such as flood control facili- ties, bridges, roads, amenities such as landscaped park- ways and medians, as well as to support the types of services expected in urban areas. . 17 5/12/88 . On the other hand, if a "rural" character is desired for the area, then one acre parcels may be too small to adequately contain equestrian uses or utilize individual water wells and septic systems safely. The rural character may, in fact, be lost with one acre parcels because of development requirements such as setbacks, street improvements, etc. Therefore, the Planning Department recommends that a study be conducted which analyzes the potential impacts of var ious lot si zes. Thi s study should be conducted during the interim period before the final adoption of the General Plan. Until then, the CAC and Planning Com- mission recommendation should stand, since a more intense designation (smaller lots) would increase development pressures in the area. . The study suggested by staff will help determine the ul tima te development pa ttern in the area covered by the RE designation. The portions of Verdemont which have already been developed are, in effect, already committed to an urban pattern and lifestyle. No other decisions are necessary, or even feasible, since the potential for major change is simply not there. The suggested study will carefully evaluate the impacts created by different land use patterns and intensities. It will help deter- mi ne parcel si ze thresholds for var ious urban serv ices and infrastructure needs. Woody Tescher described the designations given to the various areas in Verdemont on the map. Ann Siracusa answered questions regarding recom- mended zoning in Area No. 12, stating that non-conforming uses would not be permitted to rebuild in the event of destruction. The General Plan will pre-empt the Verde- mont Plan. Vince Bautista answered questions regarding the Verdemont Plan, which was adopted in November, 1986. The study took approximately three and a half years to do. A traffic consultant was hired at $18,IHHl to $20,000. A biologist was hired for $5,000 to review the location of sensitive plant species in the area for the Environmental Impact Report. Public hearings were held on the Verde- mont Area Plan. He stated that all personnel, including clerical staff, working on the plan were named on the plan. . 18 5/12/88 . In a letter dated May 12, 1988, Inland Action, Inc., a non-profit, non-political corporation of public spirited citizens who are banded together to aid in the economic development of the Inland Empire, expressed concern about the quality of the General Plan revision and the adoption of a good interim land use policy. They requested tha t the Verdemon t Area Plan, the Highland Area Plan and numerous redevelopment plans now in place, be considered as viable components to an up- graded General Plan, and that they be used as part of the preferred land use alternatives to be sent to the Office of Planning and Research. They strong ly urged tha t before the Counc i 1 makes any interim land use decision, that these plans be given consideration for interim planning guides. Discussion ensued regarding the amount of time and money invested in the Verdemont Area Plan. . Ann Siracusa answered questions, stating that the majority of the members of the General Plan Revision Ci ti zens I Adv i sory Commi ttee are not from the Verdemont area, but the group that participated in the development of the Verdemont Area Plan were from that area. She requested direction regarding the Verdemont area as to whether it is to be considered rural or urban. Senior Assistant questions, stating that if an accident occurs area. City Attorney the City has during flood Barlow answered possible liability conditions in the Discussion was held concerning the placement of upscale housing in the City, school in the Verdemont area, the need for and services to be provided to the area, the area for holding or controlled growth. need for and the need for a infrastructure and zoning of Chris Saldecke of the Citizens & Homeowners Associa- tion for Responsible Growth & Environment (C.H.A.R.G.E.), gave a slide presentation of problem areas in Verdemont, spoke regarding the outdated General Plan, and provided pictures of the area. The cost of preparation of the Verdemont Area Plan was discussed at having been between $250,000 and $500,000. . 19 5/12/88 . In a letter dated May 9, 1988, Robert T. Older of Older & Older, requested that the southwest corner of Palm Avenue and Kendall Drive at the 1-215 Freeway, main- tain its current General Plan designation and CM zoning. He is currently negotiating with a Fortune 500 company on the possible commercial development of the property, and a change in designation to IL would devastate their plans. S. T. Older, representing Older & Older, spoke re- garding the 8.65 acres on the southwest corner of Palm & Kendall Drives, on the south side of Interstate 215. The property previously consisted of 14 acres, some of which was sold to the City for a reservoir. He spoke in opposition to the property being desig- nated IL in Alternative "E". The parcels were zoned C-2 by the County of San Bernardino. In 1981, he approached the City regarding development of the property and was told to apply for annexation into the City. This process took approximately one year and the property was zoned CM, as it is a freeway interchange corner. Mr. Older stated he participated in the development of the Verdemont Area Plan and he still supports it. . He requested that his property be designated either CG or highway or iented commerc ial. There is 1,019 feet of frontage on Kendall Drive and about 600 on Palm Drive, with curb and gutter to the property lines. Frank Tracadas spoke regarding the property on the north side of Kendall, east of Palm, adjacent to the end of what the Planning staff recommended as commercial. The property backs up to Cable Creek, and there is a br idge on the east side. He requested that the commercial designation be extended across this piece of property as it seems incongruent to have this area as one-acre estate lots. He spoke in favor of adopting the Verdemont Area Plan. Bob Sessa, owner of property on the corner of Ohio and Olive, spoke in favor of the Verdemont Area Plan. He submi tted plans to the City for the development of 44 lots on 11.5 acres, which were approved December 18, 1986. He incurred several delays and then the building moratorium was established. . 20 5/12/88 . He requested clarification from staff as to whether his project will be approved under Government Code Sec- tion 65943. Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow answered ques- tions, stating that this project cannot be specifically answered to without review. Mr. Sessa requested clarification of his land use designation. Ann Siracusa answered questions regarding the grand- father policy. Mr. Sessa requested that if that his property be designated acre, not per net acre. a new plan is adopted, 3.1 to 4.5 per gross The Council requested that staff prepare a defini- tion of gross and net per acre. Ann Siracusa answered questions, stating that it would be helpful to show the Council the difference be- tween net and gross with the use of graphics. Net pro- vides for the most density. . George Scray, owner of 11.4 acres since 1978 located at Belmont and Magnolia, which is presently designated as RE, stated that he has been approached by several deve- lopers over the years to purchase the property and build three to four homes and greater density per acre. He has never been contacted by anyone desiring to develop one acre parcels. He requested RS zoning to sufficient revenue to make the feasible, and space for privacy. prov ide the Ci ty wi th property economically Jay developer southeast outlining Refold of J. Refold Development Company, and owner of an existing shopping center on the corner of Kendall and Palm, provided a handout his location. He stated that Alternative "E" rezones his property from C2 to a single residential estate lot. He pointed out his property is an on and off ramp of the Interstate 215 freeway. It abuts the freeway and the corner is a busy intersection of a state highway and Palm Avenue, which is the actual entrance and exit to the freeway. . 21 5/12/88 . Because of the existing traffic, there is a dedicated traffic light planned for the corner. He has contributed $7,000 for his share of that light. The property is not adjacent to any residential or apartment buildings. He further stated that the property was a Cal Trans dump si te that he converted. It has a high pressure and high power gas line running through its middle, which is why his development is split into two buildings. He requested that the zoning remain commercial on his property, as it would greatly decrease the value of his center and create havoc with his lender and tenants to have the designation changed to RE. If the building were destroyed by fire or earthquake, he could not re- build as stated in his lease requirements. He would only be permitted to build a single family estate, which he described as being unfit for habitation due to the land's relation to the freeway. . David Woods, a civil engineer representing Pauline Faut, who owns approximately 148 acres along the freeway adjacent to Devore, stated that the property is desig- nated IE and MFP. The portion north of Cable Canyon Road is designated IE. Staff recommendation 4 for Area 12, Verdemont states that the area on the north side of the 1-215 Freeway near Devore Road should be changed from IE (Industrial Extractive) to RE (Residential Estate) to correct an error on the original alternative maps. Mr. Woods stated his opinion that RE would be a mistake, as during the development of the Verdemont Area Plan, this property was reviewed for various purposes and RE was one of them. It was found that, in Devore, there are much smaller lots being built upon and the land is next to the freeway off-ramp. He recommended the R-7 designation of the Verdemont Area Plan be followed. He further stated that the other part of Ms. Faut's property south of Cable Canyon along the freeway is managed floodplain. Staff recommendation 3 for Area 12, Verdemont, states that the area designated MFP (Flood Plain Management) lying north of the 1-215 Freeway should, by policy, be allowed to be removed from this designation only upon approval of a Specific Plan, pur- suant to Government Code Section 65450. Said Specific Plan shall address the flooding issues associated with Cable Creek, detailing proposed size, location, design, etc. of the creek improvements, as well as other develop- ment plans. . 22 5/12/88 . Mr. Woods stated that the staff's recommendation would put the property owner in a Catch 22 situation, because a Specific Plan cannot be made if it is unknown what the final designation of the property will be. He prefers a residential designation on the property so that he can submit a Specific Plan and design the flood con- trol structures to accommodate the flood plain area. Alan Walters, 4933 "F" Street, owner of a five-acre lot planted with Christmas trees at 3118 Belmont, stated that the Citizens' Advisory Committee has been irrespon- sible, discriminatory and hypocritical in their attempt to adopt the Alternative "E" plan. He feels that they took input from new owners of 7200 square foot lots, who have now decided they would like to live in the country. He spoke regarding the absence of commercial centers in the Verdemont area creating traffic congestion as residents travel to outlying shopping centers and banks. He requested that the existing Verdemont Area Plan be kept, instead of Alternative "E". . Don Regan, 245 Fischer Avenue 0-1, Costa Mesa, Cali- fornia, a limited partner of CFB, Ltd., the owner of a municipal bond project known as Shadow Hills, located at the corner of Kendall and Pine, described their project as currently 30% complete and in involuntary limbo. There are 30 units built and occupied; 12 units which are slab only, with no Certificate of Occupancy, which was alluded to earlier; 36 units which are 90% complete and are subject to a multi-million dollar construction loan; and 12 more units with slabs poured. Grading permits are in hand for the entire project. He stated that this project Bernardino Superior Court Case No. is a 1 so 238753. known as San Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow interjected that it is not appropriate to review current litigation. Mr. Regan sta ted tha t, as suggested ear 1 ier, in no way did CFB, Ltd. "walk away" from this project. His personal home is subject to a multi-million construction loan, which is in default, for the Shadow Hills project. He spoke in favor of and as a signatory to the position paper dated May 10, 1988, and also against Alternative "E". (The position paper is a brown-ringed pamphlet with cover page entitled "Verdemont May, 1988", as presented later in meeting by Mr. Mlynarski - See Page 25) . 23 5/12/88 . He requested permission to i~~ediately proceed with the project at Kendall and Pine, stating that they have no desire to expand the litigation or become a non-con- forming use. The project economics support the infra- structure in the area, and the provision for new Pine Avenue to come through the project has been engineered and graded. The project forms a barrier to the freeway and freeway-type uses. He corrected misconceptions shown in Slides 1 and 2 presented earlier by Chris Saldecke. He stated that there will be no construction on the other side of Wash- ington and all apartments will be on the freeway side. . He described grading for the project as follows: the hills will retain almost their exact configuration; the hill closest to the present location of Pine, which was shown with a pad at its foot, will not have a spoonful of dirt moved from it; the ridge that slopes down through the middle of the project will be graded 2-1, which is only to accommodate new Pine to come through the project. Further, as the ridge rises to the north of the project, the hi 11 is now 1705 feet and would susta in some minor grading to reduce the top of the hill to 1690 feet above sea level, which is very minimal. There would be no change in the site line from east to west, which forms part of the barrier between the freeway and the develop- ments in the area. Mr. Regan requested that the City make a decision as quickly as possible, so that construction can continue in a spirit of cooperation. Jean Hanson, 180 W. Cal i fornia, co-owner wi th of property in Verdemont portions zoned Hl,8lHl and Verdemont Area Plan. Fiesta Green, Port Hueneme, her husband for over 35 years zoned R-1-14,400, with nearby 7,200, spoke in favor of the She stated they have two parcels of desirable pro- perty for residential development, totaling ten acres on the northwest corner of Ohio and Magnolia. The entire ten acres is flat land. She is concerned that the ten acres is being considered for rezoning to one-acre lots, as it would not be economically advantageous to develop fewer than three or four lots per acre. . 24 5/12/88 . She spoke of the revenue the City would attain by the property being divided into 25 or 30 lots, than from 8 or 9 one-acre lots. It has been her observation that large residential parcels become difficult to maintain attractively. Mrs. Hanson spoke of their plans to restore their old victorian home on the property. This is to be accom- plished with revenue from the development of the remain- der of the property. She spoke in favor of the Verdemont Area Plan, and of their willingness to participate in the infrastructure of the area. She noted that if there are any endangered plant species in the area, she is required by the City to plow them under several times each year. She into the become a services, commented that since the area was incorporated City in approximately 1970, the area should part of the City. If the residents want City they cannot have County atmosphere. . In a letter dated May 11, 1988, David E. Mlynarski, Director of Planning for Monnig Development, Inc. sub- mitted facts and figures for Tracts 11291, 12413 and 13619. In addition, he provided recommended land use districts for each project, which will provide consis- tency between land use and zoning districts. David Mlynarski, Director of Planning for Monnig Development, Inc., 501 N. Placentia Avenue, Fullerton, presented a position paper, representing approximately 600 acres in the Verdemont area. He stated that the in- tent of the position paper is to support the Verdemont Area Plan and the land uses represented at the time of its adopt ion. The document conta ins letters from con- cerned property owners, developers, and reti red people who want to see benefit from their property and want to add to an attractive portion of the City. (See brown- ringed pamphlet with cover page entitled "Verdemont May, 1988") He spoke of the need for infrastructure development in the area and for quality development to insure that the area is well planned and land values are protected. He referred to the last paragraph on the first page of the position paper, stating that problems can be solved with vision, knowledge and cooperation as the City follows forward with the Verdemont Area Plan. . 25 5/12/88 . He reviewed the four recommendations on Page 2 of the position paper, stating they are consistent with the Verdemont Area Plan. He supported comments made by Coun- cil Member Estrada regarding time, money and hard work spent on the development of the Verdemont Area Plan. Per state law, the plan was submitted to the State Office Planning and Research for review and sent back for its implementation as it was found to be in conformance with all of the state requirements. Mr. Mylnarski pointed out that the last two photo- graphs included in the position paper indicate areas within the City's sphere of influence which have been divided into one acre lots for a number of years. Some have quality and some have poor development. He agreed with the previous statements that smaller lots, providing quality development, are more manageable. . Three projects currently being processed by Monnig Development Inc. in the Verdemont area are addressed in the back of the position paper pamphlet and were des- cribed by Mr. Mylnarski. Two of the three properties are completely engineered, subdivision agreements have been submitted to the City and in some cases, final fees have been paid. At least three of the tracts are due to be recorded, and processing is being pursued on the engi- neering of the remainder of the units within Tract 11291. He stated that the developments will up-graded housing. Their initial product Walnut Avenues is entry level, good quality they intend to move up in the direction of level of development. be quality, on Pine and hous i ng, and quality and Mr. Mylnarski stated that the general area of Verde- mont, up to Verdemont Avenue, was referred to as "Hill- side". At the top of Pennsylvania or Verdemont Avenues is a maximum slope of 11%, with an average of approxi- mately 8 1/2%, which does not come close to qualifying for a hillside area or Hillside Management designation. He stated that the Verdemont Area Plan may need some refinement or additional policies or guidelines imple- men ted by staff in order for it to be car r ied out pro- perly, but it is a well-thought out plan that should be supported by the Mayor and Council. RECESS MEETING At 9:25 p.m., the Mayor and Common Council recessed for a five-minute break. . 26 5/12/88 . RECONVENE MEETING AT 9: 313 p.m., the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the Ci ty of San Bernardino reconvened in the Counc il Chamber s of Ci ty Hall, 3130 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California. ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by Ci ty Clerk Clark wi th the following being present: Mayor Wilcox; Council Members Estrada, Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow, City Clerk Clark, Acting City Administrator Robbins. Absent: None. Leon Kedding, 5469 Alto Drive, San Bernardino, a consultant representing the owner of land located at Magnolia and Chestnut, spoke regarding the misconception that with larger lots comes up-scale housing. He reviewed six contiguous parcels developed within the same time frame at the Tax Assessor's Office and improvements on the land ranged from $59,131313 to $123,131313. He stated that the theme supporting any annexation is urban services, and he supported the completion of the urban services to the Verdemont area. . He requested that the Verdemont Area Plan be con- tinued as the Interim Plan for the area. Jennie Limbacher, 4946 N. horses in the Verdemont area, the horse owners in the area. "D" Street, a boarder of spoke in representation of She stated concern regarding bridle trails in the Verdemont area, and the Verdemont Area Plan. Ridge Creek Equestrian Estates was supposed to have a 15-foot bridle trail through the project, but some of the homeowners have decided they do not want a bridle trail. She re- quested that the Verdemont bridle paths be I inked wi th the regional bridle paths, as was promised many years ago. She also spoke against high density housing. Courtney Buse, 38138 Osbun Road, San Bernardino, supported staff's recommendation and the existing Verde- mont Area Plan. He requested assurance that fees col- lected as part of a development process, be spent for improvements within those areas. He stated he has photographic through restaurants, min i markets can be well designed and blend into evidence that drive- and serv ice sta tions neighborhoods. . 27 5/12/88 . Roth Fountain, 6372 Briarwood Court, San Bernardino, requested guidel ines for the homeowners from the Mayor and Counc i 1 so tha t they could address the Mayor and Council constructively, rather than just listing com- plaints. He sta ted aesthetics. If you get a tract tha t lot you line effect. size does not relate to up homes on lots of equal rural size, He expressed concern dall Drive, as there are access. for add i tional access to Ken- only two roads that provide Glen Gipson, 6495 Palm Avenue, San Bernardino, a Verdemont resident for approximately 12 years, stated tha t when he bui 1 t hi s home, the orig inal plan for hi s 1.3 acres was to split it and build a retirement home in the back. The Ci ty denied the request. The area was designated for a one acre minimum. He made his plans accordingly, and then noticed zone changes being approved for developers wi th tract maps of 721iH'1 square foot lots. . He stated that the one acre lot is still viable and does not promote trashy development. Some landowners have spoken about their inability to sell one acre lots in the Verdemont area. Their lack of marketing expertise should not determine the land use designation. Rich Levin, 2278 Sheridan Road, San Bernardino, a member of the Citizens' Advisory Committee and a con- tributor to the Verdemont Area Plan, supported the keep- ing of the Verdemont Area Plan. He spoke regarding the MU designation of the pro- perty at University Parkway and Kendall Drive, requesting that the area around Cal Sta te Uni vers i ty be designa ted residential and not a Marie Calendar's Restaurant or Motel 6. He stated that the Citizens' Advisory Committee did not take appropriate interest in the rights of property owners in Verdemont. He spoke against high density, but stated it is unfair to change the game rules in mid- stream. . Barbara Sky, 6464 Palm Avenue, San Bernardino, spoke regarding the Verdemont Area Plan. She stated that developers John Edwins, Joe Bonadiman and Dennis Stafford owned or handled 913% of the land in Verdemont. They 28 5/12/88 . zoned it what they wanted for their tentative tracts and that is how the zoning has remained. During the meetings for the Verdemont Area Plan, area residents stated they wanted the land zoned for one acre parcels and were voted out. She stated that at a meeting held on March 5, 1987, Commissioner Nierman, who also participated in the Verde- mont Area Plan, stated on the record that it appears that the standards in the Verdemont Area Plan were voted out by the Legislative Review Committee. At that same meet- ing, Commissioner Nierman stated his concerns that the Ci ty has the lowest standards of any ci ty in Southern California, and that the proposals met were bare mini- mums. Ms. Sky further stated that at the same meeting, Commissioner Shaw stated for the record that he agreed that development should not proceed until such time as improved development standards were adopted. Commis- sioner Nierman wanted the word sent out to developers that they would have to do better than the minimums. The City has not improved. The developers do not live in San Bernardino and have no regard for the land or safety of the people here. . She stated that five years ago the area residents were promised a bridge at Palm, and street and storm drain improvements and they have not been addressed. Four projects were denied at the aforementioned meeting of March 5, 1987. Staff came back and the developers got an unlimited continuance. The same projects are coming back for approval. She al so spoke the area during the streets, which would regarding evacuation 100 year flood and be flooded out. procedures for the two access She stated that the organization called Citizens and Homeowners Association for Responsible Growth and En- vironment (C.H.A.R.G.E.) has approximately 100 members so far. They are not against growth, but they want it planned with fire and police protection taken into con- sideration. Ms. Sky stated that she has many questions to ask, especially about the Grandfathering Act, of City Attorney Penman. He personally asked to corne address a meeting of C.H.A.R.G.E. regarding the Verdemont area, but will not return her phone calls. . 29 5/12/88 . CITY ATTORNEY PENMAN ARRIVED City Attorney Penman arrived at the Council Meeting and replaced Senior Assistant City Attorney Barlow. Ms. Sky requested that the Mayor and Council start considering the residents of Verdemont. She questioned if developers would be allowed to continue to build with- out taking safety precautions for the citizens of the area. Teresa Alcorn, 6238 Indigo, San Bernardino, stated she moved to the Verdemont area to get away from the downtown area. She requested that some areas be left for larger than one acre lots for horses. Richard Kopczynski, 8150 Cable Canyon Road, San Bernardino, spoke against the Verdemont Area Plan, which had 19 amendments. During the making of the plan, there was an approved tentative tract that was never reflected on the draft, final draft or final zoning maps. . Helen Kopczynski, 8150 Cable Canyon Road, San Ber- nardino, requested that the Mayor and Common Council take into consideration that the area residents love the rural area in which they live. That does not mean they wish to stop development. She stated that the General Plan has not developed the goals, objectives nor the implementation measures for the future. The City's attraction should not be cheap land on wh ich to bu i Id cheap houses. She sta ted that Verdemont should be land banked and preserved for the future development of the City. Joy Kolstad, 1542 Indian Trail Drive, San Bernar- dino, spoke regarding her participation in the Verdemont Area Plan, stating that Alternative "E" is superior to the Verdemont Area Plan. She stated that the Verdemont Area Plan was a "stacked deck", as there were people on the committee who were there for financial gain. She stated that the Verdemont Area Plan is not con- formi ng to the des i res of its res idents and there has been extremely poor construction by developers. John Lightburn spoke in representation of Charles King and Associates, who owns property on the north side of the 1-215 Freeway, bordered by Magnolia and Chestnut, and the property straight ahead of where pine Avenue runs . 30 5/12/88 . into Kendall Drive. The property at Magnolia and Chest- nut is zoned Residential Estates, for one unit per acre and the other property is zoned residential for three to four dwelling units per acre. He stated that the residential properties are inappropriate, as they cent to the freeway. densities for the are closely adj a- Mr. Lightburn supported a study for housing needs in the City and the Verdemont Area Plan, and described Alternative "E" as a step backwards. He was a member of the Planning Commission when the Verdemont Area Plan was adopted. . Joe Bonad iman of Bonad iman and Assoc ia tes, 606 E. Mill Street, San Bernardino, stated that the slide show given earlier presented good development in the City. He sta ted that the commi t tee who developed the Verdemont Area Plan was unfa ir ly assa i led ear 1 ier in the meeti ng. The committee was fairly chosen and the residents were well represen ted. The plan tha t was developed by the committee was modified by staff before it arrived at the Planning Commission. The commission then worked on it quite a bit and held public hearings before it was approved and passed on to the Council. He disagreed with a statement previously made in the meeting concerning people who worked on the development of the Verdemont Area Plan profitting on the development of their property. He spoke regarding the development of hillside pro- perty, stating that there is no correlation between the size of a lot and the quality of its development. He requested that the Verdemont Area Plan be re- tained. Council Member Estrada made a motion, seconded by Council Member Pope-Ludlam, that the Verdemont Area Plan be adopted as the Interim Plan for Area 12 with the fol- lowing inclusions, translating the Verdemont Area Plan into the designations used in the proposed plan: 1. that the areas designated R-7 on the Verdemont Area Plan, be designated RS with 7,200 square foot lots; . 2. that the areas designated R-4 on the Verdemont Area Plan, be designated RL, limited to Hl,800 - 14,400 square foot lots, showing existing facilities; 31 5/12/88 . 3. that the areas designated R-3 on the Verdemont Area Plan, be designated RL, limited to 18,000 - 20,000 square foot lots, up to the 15% slope; 4. that the areas designated R-l on the Verdemont Area Plan, be designated RE, one unit per gross acre; 5. that staff develop a policy that in the flood- plain, a Specific Plan be required to spell out specifics on development and details to mitigate the floodplain; also, that the commercial designation fronting along Palm, which is designated CM on the Verdemont Area Plan and is located south of the freeway, along Palm and ex- tending up the freeway, be designated CG to a depth of approximately 800 feet. The balance of the CM desig- nation would remain IL, Light Industrial; that the commercial designation at Palm and the freeway, be designated as CG, Commercial General; that the industrial designation on the Verdemont Area Plan, be designated IL; . tha t the RCN which is located designated as MH, designation on the Verdemont Area Plan, in the foothills upslope of 15%, be Hillside Management; after discussion, the motion included that a policy statement will be given within thirty days concerning the development of a comprehens i ve plan for public improve- ments and infrastructure; and, that the consultants be directed to study the areas along Kendall Dr i ve, as the lots wi 11 probably not be able to be developed as conventional R-l subdivisions because they are not very deep, and some type of develop- ment should be allowed under the RS designation. The motion Council Members Ludlam, Miller. None. carried Estrada, Noes: by the Reilly, Council following vote: Ayes: Flores, Maudsley, Pope- Member Mi nor. Absent: Woody Tescher answered questions regarding the location of where the 15% slope begins. . 32 5/12/88 . The Planning Director answered questions the translation of the Verdemont Area Plan to posed plan designations. She stated that designation on the Verdemont Area Plan, at Little League Drive, translates into RM, which 14 units per acre. regarding the pro- the R-14 Palm and is up to Discussion ensued regarding changing the designation of the band of land designated as R-14 to RU or RL. The area des igna ted R-4, between Palm and Magnol ia on the Verdemont Area Plan, would be converted to RL from south of the creek to the freeway. Council Member Minor stated that he will not support any multiple units in the Verdemont area. The Planning Director suggested that the areas designated multiple units be changed to RS. Woody Tescher suggested tha t Al terna te "E" be used south of the freeway, except for the commercial segment, the 800 foot deep section, which would be modified. . Discussion ensued regarding properties along Kendall Drive which are not very deep, not being developable under an RS designation. John Lightburn of Lightburn and Associates stated that he agreed with the !1ayor and Common Council that there needs to be clarity concerning what developers are willing to add, and suggested that a policy statement be developed. RECESS MEETING - CLOSED SESSION - CONTINUED FROM EARLIER IN MEETING - SEE PAGE 2 At 11:25 p.m., Council Member Flores made a motion, seconded by Council Member Minor and unanimously carried, tha t the meeti ng recess to Closed Sess ion pursuan t to Government Code Section 54956.9 (a) to confer with its attorney regarding pending litigation which has been initiated formally to which the City is a party as follows: (2) Cable Lakes San Bernardino 239649. Associates vs. City of San Bernardino - Superior Court Case No. 238714 and . 33 5/12/88 . CLOSED SESSION At 11: 25 p.m., Mayor Wilcox called the Closed Ses- sion to order in the Conference Room of the Council Cham- bers, City Hall, 31313 North "0" Street, San Bernardino, Cal Horn ia. ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by Ci ty Clerk Clark with the following being present: Mayor Wilcox; Council Members Estrada, Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; City Attorney Penman, Acting City Administrator Robbins. Absent: City Clerk Clark. ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION At 11:35 p.m., the Closed Session adjourned to the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Cornmon Council of the City of San Bernardino. RECONVENE MEETING At 11: 35 p.m., Mayor wilcox called the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Cornmon Council of the Ci ty of San Bernardino to order in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3130 North "0" Street, San Bernardino, Cali- fornia. . ROLL CALL Roll Call was taken by Ci ty Clerk Clark wi th the following being present: Mayor Wilcox; Council Members Estrada, Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Minor, Pope-Ludlam, Miller; City Attorney Penman, City Clerk Clark, Acting City Administrator Robbins. Absent: None. ADJOURNMENT At 11:35 p.m., Council Member Estrada made a motion, seconded by Council Member Reilly and unanimously car- ried, that the meeting adjourn to the Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council to be held at 9: 130 a.m., Monday, May 16, 1988, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3130 North "0" Street, San Bernardino, California. ~~~b~ ,/ Cl ty Clerk No. of items: 8 No. of hours: 6~ . 34 5/12/88