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MINUTES
MAYOR AND COMMON COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF SAN BERNARDINO
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 26, 1996
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
This is the time and place set for an adjourned regular
meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San
Bernardino from the regular meeting held at 8: 01 a. m., Monday,
August 19, 1996, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North
"D" Street, San Bernardino, California.
The City Clerk has caused to be posted the order of the
adjournment of said meeting held on Monday, August 19, 1996, and
has on file in the Office of the City Clerk an affidavit of said
posting together with a copy of said order which was posted at 8:00
a.m., Tuesday, August 20, 1996, on the door of the place at which
said meeting was held.
The adjourned regular meeting of the Mayor and Common Council
of the City of San Bernardino was called to order by Mayor Minor at
9:03 a.m., Monday, August 26, 1996, in the Council Chambers of City
Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San Bernardino, California.
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by City Clerk Rachel Clark with the
following being present: Mayor Minor; Council Members Negrete,
Curlin, Arias, Oberhelman, Devlin, Anderson, Miller; City Attorney
Penman, City Clerk Rachel Clark, City Administrator Shauna Clark.
Absent: None.
WORKSHOP/DISCUSSION - TO AID FINALIZATION OF CONSULTANT'S
FEASIBILITY STUDY CITY-PROVIDED (FIRE DEPARTMENT)
EMERGENCY TRANSPORT SERVICES (AMBULANCE SERVICE) (1)
Mayor Minor explained that this meeting would be a workshop
regarding the feasibility of the City providing emergency transport
services and outlined the order in which the various parties would
be speaking.
City Administrator Shauna Clark explained that this meeting
had been scheduled to provide Emergency Care Information Center
(ECIC) an opportunity to brief the Council on their findings
regarding City-provided emergency transport services. She noted
that ECIC was founded in 1974 and has conducted extensive studies
on emergency medical services, explained the methodology of the
study, and summarized the experience and qualifications of members
of the ECIC organization.
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RECESS MEETING
At 9:11 a.m., Mayor Minor declared a five-minute recess to
allow staff time to make copies of back-up material for the
Council.
RECONVENE MEETING
At 9:18 a.m., Mayor Minor reconvened
meeting of the Mayor and Common Council
Bernardino.
the adjourned regular
of the City of San
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by City Clerk Rachel Clark with the
following being present: Mayor Minor; Council Members Negrete,
Curlin, Arias, Oberhelman, Devlin, Anderson, Miller; City Attorney
Penman, City Clerk Rachel Clark, City Administrator Shauna Clark.
Absent: None.
Jim Page, Director, Emergency Care Information Center, P.O.
Box 2789, Carlsbad, CA, began his presentation by commenting on
those items which were specifically outlined in the agreement
between the City and ECIC, wherein ECIC agreed to conduct an
operational and organization feasibility analysis relative to the
San Bernardino Fire Department providing emergency medical
transportation services. (A copy of the agreement dated March 21,
1996, was provided for the record.)
Mr. Page addressed each of the subjects by explaining what
criteria or information had been used to arrive at their
conclusions and answered Council's questions regarding same. Said
items included response-time performance; service demand; impact on
fire suppression capability; apparatus, equipment, and facilities;
dispatch and communications; education and training; quality
management; staffing and supervision; deployment; work force
issues; equal opportunity; turnover and burnout; and public
information, education, and relations. Mr. Page also referenced
the massive restructuring taking place within the health care
industry, which involves a complete turnabout from consumption to
conservation.
Ty Mayfield, Emergency Care Information Center, P.O. Box 2789,
Carlsbad, CA, gave an overhead presentation utilizing graphs to
depict call volume, expenses, average bills with and without
membership revenues, and a five-year financial summary. (Copies of
the overheads were submitted into the record.)
Many items were discussed and questioned by the Council
including the City's maintenance program for Fire Department
equipment, the duties to be performed by the proposed medical
director position, the impact on response times if the City were
forced to go from six to five paramedic units, the merits of the
City's current dispatch system, whether the City should consider
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nonemergency transport services, and whether The Right to Vote on
Taxes Act would prohibit the cost of establishing the program
without first going to a vote of the people.
Mayor Minor summarized the basics of the plan presented by Mr.
Page as follows: An initial $1.7 million to start the program,
which would be recouped within five years; 29 additional personnel,
to include 21 paramedic fire fighters, seven administrative
personnel, and one medical director (who would work one day per
week); and the projection that the revenues generated would more
than meet the costs of the program (based on a 58.1 percent
collection rate) .
City Attorney Penman inquired whether Mr. Page thought the
existing lawsuit between the County of San Bernardino and the City
of San Bernardino relative to emergency transport services should
have any bearing on the timing of when the City initiates its
emergency medical transport service plan. Mr. Penman also
expressed concern regarding added liability to the City.
Mr. Page used a little anecdote to indicate his thoughts that
the City should proceed with their plans regardless of whether the
lawsuit with the County of San Bernardino is settled.
Additionally, he stated that the emergency care dispatch system has
handled one-quarter of a billion cases without a single lawsuit.
RECESS MEETING
At 11:02 a.m., Mayor Minor declared a five-minute recess.
RECONVENE MEETING
At 11:10 a.m., Mayor Minor reconvened
meeting of the Mayor and Common Council
Bernardino.
the adjourned regular
of the City of San
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by City Clerk Rachel Clark with the
following being present: Mayor Minor; Council Members Negrete,
Curlin, Arias, Oberhelman, Devlin, Anderson, Miller; City Attorney
Penman, City Clerk Rachel Clark, City Administrator Shauna Clark.
Absent: None.
Dennis Bolt, Executive Vice President, American Medical
Response (AMR) (successor to Courtesy Ambulance), 338 West 7th
Street, San Bernardino, CA, gave an overhead presentation regarding
how managed care is changing the face of emergency medical services
and suggested that the Council delay any decision on this matter
for three years. (Copies of the overheads were submitted into the
record. )
Mr. Bol t noted
organizations (HMOs)
number furnished by
that more and
are trying to
the HMO rather
more the heal th maintenance
get their members to call a
than 9-1-1 and discussed the
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current emergency medical service system versus the future system,
which would involve screening by an emergency triage center after
the call comes into the 9-1-1 answering point. He detailed for
Council AMR's answer to the changes being initiated by managed care
through the use of the Healthcare Pathway Management System.
Discussion ensued regarding past actions of the Council
relative to this matter, and it was noted that several of the
existing Council members had voted twice in the past to approve a
City-operated emergency medical transport service. Also discussed
was whether the Council wanted to notify American Medical Response
that the City does not intend to renew in May 1997 the exclusive
operating agreement they have with AMR for ambulance service; and
instead direct the City Administrator to begin development of an
implementation plan for a City-operated ambulance service.
City Administrator Shauna Clark explained that ECIC's report
would not be finalized for approximately 30 days, and she had not
anticipated that Council would take action on this item today. She
recommended that the notification of AMR should be agendized
separately, if that was the Council's desire.
RECESS MEETING
At 12:16 p.m., Mayor Minor declared a five-minute recess.
RECONVENE MEETING
At 12:25 p.m., Mayor Minor reconvened
meeting of the Mayor and Common Council
Bernardino.
the adjourned regular
of the City of San
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by City Clerk Rachel Clark with the
following being present: Mayor Minor; Council Members Negrete,
Curlin, Arias, Oberhelman, Devlin, Anderson, Miller; City Attorney
Penman, City Clerk Rachel Clark, City Administrator Shauna Clark.
Absent: None.
Skip Kulikoff, President, San Bernardino/Rialto Fire Fighters
Local 891, 371 W. 14th Street, San Bernardino, CA, spoke regarding
the proposed San Bernardino City Fire Department Emergency
Transport System, pointing out that it was very similar to what Mr.
Page had presented. He noted that the Fire Department's plan is
designed to work with two paramedics and would not be a risky
business for the City. (A copy of the Fire Department's plan was
provided for the record.)
Richard Lewis, San Bernardino/Rialto Fire Fighters Local 891,
371 W. 14th Street, San Bernardino, CA, stated that in contrast to
AMR, the Fire Department is not profit driven, but solely service
driven; yet the potential is still there for them to generate
revenue while providing the best possible service to the citizens
of San Bernardino.
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Council suggested that Mr. Page meet with Fire Department
staff to formulate a final report.
Mayor Minor asked Chief Wright to meet with Mr. Page on this
matter.
Ruben Lopez, 631 W. 16th Street, San Bernardino, CA, expressed
support for a City-operated emergency medical transport program.
Mitch Wiley, P.O. Box 731, Rialto, CA, stated that the City of
Rialto has had a successful Fire Department ambulance
transportation program since the 70s, which is entirely self-
sufficient and turning a profit.
In closing, Mayor Minor stated that Council would not take any
action this date, but would wait for Mr. Page and his group to
submit their final report. At that time, the matter would be
placed on the agenda for the Council to receive and file.
There was no further action taken on this matter.
ADJOURNMENT (2)
At 1:25 p.m., the meeting was adjourned. The next scheduled
regular meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San
Bernardino will be held at 8:00 a.m., Tuesday, September 3, 1996,
in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North "D" Street, San
Bernardino, California.
RACHEL G. CLARK
City Clerk
By
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Deputy City Clerk
No. of Items: 2
No. of Hours: 4.5 hours
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