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City of San Bernardino, California
March 7, 1990
This is the time and place set for a Adjourned Regular
Meeting of the Mayor and Common Council of the City of San
Bernardino at their regular meeting held at 8:30 a.m., on Monday,
March 5, 1990, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 300 North
"D" Street, San Bernardino, California.
The City Clerk has caused to be posted the order of
adjournment of said meeting held on March 5, 1990, and has on
file in the office of the City Clerk an affidavit of said posting
together with a copy of said order which was posted at 10: 00
a.m., Tuesday, March 6, 1990, on the door of the place at which
said meeting was held.
The Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Common
Council of the City of San Bernardino was called to order by
Mayor Pro Tempore Maudsley at l:39 p.m., Wednesday, March 7,
1990, in the Kellogg Room, Feldheym Library, 555 West Sixth
Street, San Bernardino, California.
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by Deputy City Clerk Reese with the
following being present: Mayor Pro Tempore Maudsley; Council
Members Estrada, Reilly, Flores, Maudsley, Miller; Deputy City
Attorney Empeno, Deputy City Clerk Reese, Deputy City
Administrator Richardson. Absent: Mayor Holcomb; Council
Members Minor, pope-Ludlam.
DEVELOPMENT CODE PRESENTATION
Hillside Manauement Overlay District - Page II-142
John Montgomery, Principal Planner, introduced Ron
Pflugrath, Urban Design Studio, 446 N. Newport Blvd., Suite 202,
Newport Beach, CA 92663. He explained that Mr. Pflugrath and Mr.
Mark Brodeaur are consultants assisting with the preparation of
the Development Code.
Mr. Pflugrath distributed a three-page document entitled
"Pros and cons of attached single family development in hillside
areas" and explained the provisions, which included the
advantages and disadvantages of attached single family
development in hillside areas; graphics giving examples of
attached and clustered developments; and highlights of the
Freeway Corridor Overlay District.
Mr. pflugrath stated that the General Plan encourages
cluster type of attached single family units in the hillside
area. He explained that decreasing lot sizes and clustering of
attached units can create greater opportunities to preserve
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hillsides in a natural state, provided that overall densities are
not increased. Clustering of units can reduce required number
and lengths of roads and utility runs, provide less interference
with natural drainage features due to reduced grading, and the
use of less water for irrigation.
However, there may be some disadvantages. Attached units
may require larger graded pads due to larger footprints which can
produce severe grading on steeper slopes. Attached units on
hillsides often produce structures in visually protruding
horizontal bands and are usually two stories. Amenities usually
associated with attached condominium-type units (i.e., swimming
pools, tennis courts) require additional grading.
Mr. Pflugrath described the graphics on
handout which illustrate the terminology and
construction of attached single family units
areas.
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concepts of the
in the hillside
He also explained proposed provisions for cul-de-sacs for
hillside management overlays. They are proposing a maximum
length of 1,000 feet with a limit of 20 dwelling units, and
terminated with a turn-around area of not less than a radius of
50 feet.
Gene Klatt, Assistant City Engineer, answered questions
regarding the design of cul-de-sacs which would provide an
adequate area in which to maneuver safety vehicles.
Mr. Klatt answered questions. He stated that if a developer
is requesting approval of a slope between 6 % and 9 %, he must
explain, in writing, the reasons for the grade. It is then up to
the discretion of the Director of Public Works whether to approve
the request. Anything above 9% slope requires approval from the
Fire Chief, the Police Chief, Public Service Director and Public
Works Director. There may be factors that would allow a higher
grade for a short section of street. The Public Services
Department has a standing rule that its trash pickup trucks
cannot go over Little Mountain because of the steep grade.
Mark Brodeaur, Urban Design Studio, 446 N. Newport Blvd.,
Suite 202, Newport Beach, CA 92663, explained that a 12% slope is
recommended, and that anything over 12% would require approval.
The recommended standards are those that the City Attorney could
defend in court if necessary. If an 18% or 19% grade were
approved as part of a subdivision, and an accident occurred
because of this, the City might be liable because the grade
exceeds normal engineering standards.
John Montgomery, Principal Planner, answered questions and
explained that Title 18 of the San Bernardino Municipal Code
contains language relating to grade restrictions.
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Mr. Bonadiman, 250 S. Lena Rd., San Bernardino, stated
several years ago former City Engineer Glenn Wilson and
engineers from surrounding cities met to discuss slopes.
consensus was a recommended figure of 15% grade.
that
city
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Jack Vanderwoude, Tahiti Group, P. O. Box
Bernardino, CA 92412, stated there has been an
professional people from San Bernardino because they
quality single family homes in the community. He
that the standard grades on hillside be set at 15%.
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Mr. Warkentin, 3197 C Airport Loop, Costa Mesa, CA, stated
that he and his firm are currently involved in three hillside
developments in San Bernardino County, and one in the City. It
is their opinion that density is not a function of slope, except
to a very limited degree. Rather, it is a function of
circulation and access, underlying geology and hydrology and
view analysis, archeological and geological considerations. He
suggested that a site specific analysis be done that determines
each of the qualities involved, and then a conclusion can be
reached as to a responsible density.
Mr. Warkentin stated that good grading done responsibly, and
designed appropriately with engineering consideration, often has
a remedial effect on the property.
Mr. Warkentin also recommended permissive criteria
allows things to happen, not to disallow them, and incentives
design excellence. He felt that this policy could provide
City with an outstanding hillside development.
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Montgomery, principal Planner, stated that staff was
under a constraint on slope designations because of
in the General Plan. However, a change could be
Mr. Victor Corona, 686 S. Bunker Hill Drive, San Bernardino,
CA 92410, Planning Commissioner, explained how the density policy
was reached. He stated that the Commission wanted to reserve the
foothills and provide a near 0 density within that hillside
management area. For that reason he was not in favor in
changing the policy.
Mr. Ronald Coats, 25819 Date, San Bernardino, CA 92404,
member of the Citizens Advisory Committee, stated that when the
Committee was considering the General Plan, one of the reasons
it tried to limit density in the foothill areas was because
of possible liability to the City if houses were damaged or
destroyed in an earthquake. There is a fault along that area.
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Mr. Courtney Buse, 3808 N. Osbun Rd., San Bernardino, CA
92404, member of the Citizens Advisory Committee, felt that in
the rush to adopt the General Plan, the Committee was not given
the opportunity to fully discuss hillside management.
Mr. Buse also suggested that better definitions be provided
in the working documents.
Elliott Shaw, Wainscott & Associates, distributed a letter
dated February 23, 1990, from Melcorp Investments Inc., in which
concerns and suggestions regarding provisions in the Hillside
Management (HM) Overlay District and Foothill Fire (FF) Overlay
District are set forth. These suggestions relate specifically to
standards for cul-de-sacs, street grades, geologic
recommendations, severe cutting, and the protection of existing
topography.
Staff agreed to provide boundary lines of the Hillside
Management area.
Freewav Corridor Overlay District. Page II-l3l
Mark Brodeaur introduced the Freeway Corridor Overlay
District. He explained that one of the areas focused on in the
General Plan was a need for a Freeway Corridor Overlay District
which provides a more purposeful, aesthetic window to the City.
He explained that this overlays and is in addition to the
existing zoning on the property.
Mr. Brodeaur explained that these provisions apply to
property within 300 feet of a freeway, or the first public street
(whichever is greater) from the edge of the freeway right-of-way.
Basically, it requires a 25 foot landscape buffer along the edge
of the freeway and a 50 foot building setback. He explained that
monument signs cannot extend to a height of more than ten feet
above the freeway elevation.
Mr. Brodeaur explained that another key element of the
Freeway Overlay Zone was an almost unanimous desire to prohibit
metal buildings and billboard signs. Metal buildings and
billboards are not necessarily undesirable, but they are not
wanted in the area within 300 feet of the freeway. He stated
this overlay zone also requires that all service and outdoor
areas be screened.
Mr. Brodeaur answered questions, stating he had received
significant comments from staff and others in the community
regarding the proposed standards on metal buildings. He stated
they had also talked to representatives of the metal building
industry and were favorably impressed with guidelines that the
metal building industry publishes and distributes. He stated
they were willing to work on variations to the standards for
metal buildings.
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questions.
Ross,
the
Senior Planner, showed a
Freeway Corridor Overlay Zone
map
and
showing
answered
Mr. Brodeaur described and drew diagrams of various signs
that are allowed. He also explained the method by which the
size of signs are determined so they are large enough to allow
travelers driving on the freeway at 55 miles per hour to read the
message. For this reason, signs along the freeway are larger
than those in other areas.
Mr. Brodeaur answered questions regarding general
advertising signs. Signs with distinctive logos such as
automobile symbols are allowed. However, the use of signs such
as those at restaurants that advertise a beverage or other
products sold at that location, rather than solely the primary
business, are discouraged. These signs are often provided to the
restaurant owner by the beverage company in exchange for the
advertising value.
Mr.
facades.
standards.
Brodeaur answered questions
He stated these provisions
regarding the use
are just guideline,
of
not
A discussion ensued regarding the need for definitions
regarding the facade section.
Mr. Brodeaur answered questions, stating that glass
buildings that reflect light are acceptable in some areas, but
are inappropriate within 300 feet of the freeway because of glare
in drivers' eyes.
Sandra Paulsen, Senior Planner, and Mr. Brodeaur answered
questions regarding sign standards.
A discussion ensued regarding the placement of freeway signs
within 600 feet of each other. Mr. Brodeaur answered questions,
stating that the provisions don't specify exactly where the
signs should be.
He also stated that murals, such as found in the Los Angeles
area are not considered to be signs.
Fire DeQartment comments - vehicle access in hillside areas
Mikel Park, Fire Marshal, Fire Department, commented on
access to the hillside areas for safety and emergency situations.
Cul-de-sacs cause the Fire Department tremendous problems in
getting through the community, and described the difficulties in
maneuvering large vehicles in a cul-de-sac. He recommended there
be a minimum of 50 feet for the turn-around of the vehicle in a
cul-de-sac.
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Mr. Park also spoke regarding the street grades in the City.
He stated that fire trucks are designed at the factory to
function on a maximum of a 12% grade. The trucks can operate on
a grade more than that, especially if the truck has momentum,
but the Fire Department would like to keep the 12% grade
restriction rather than a higher figure because there may be a
situation in which the truck cannot make the grade. He felt
that the same situation applies for the Refuse Division vehicles.
Residential Development Design Guidelines - Paue II-26
Mr. Brodeaur read the purpose of the Residential Development
Guidelines, which is intended as a reference to assist the
designer in understanding the City's goals and objectives for
high quality residential development. He explained that these
guidelines relate to lengths of streets, placement of buildings,
curbing, and streets. The goal is to create functional and
visual variety along local streets and to discourage subdivisions
where identical homes are situated with no variation in building
placement or the street scene.
A discussion ensued
possible variation, such
appearance.
regarding the design of walls
as decorative vines to enhance
and
the
Mr. Brodeaur stated they are not requ~r~ng any specific type
of wall design, but are suggesting various methods for making the
wall more attractive, such as capping the wall, and perhaps
providing some landscaping in front of the wall.
Commercial Development Desiun Guidelines - Paue II-78
Mr. Brodeaur introduced the section on Commercial
Development Design Guidelines. The major components of the
guidelines relate to site planning, parking and circulation
design, landscaping and screening. The provisions are intended
to provide a maximum amount of flexibility.
Mr. Brodeaur answered questions regarding roof tiles and
what was considered to be inappropriate for certain types of
architectural style.
He also answered questions regarding the use of awnings.
He stated that the only places he considered appropriate for
metal awnings were residential structures. He did not think they
were appropriate for commercial buildings.
Industrial Districts - Page II-99
Mr. Brodeaur explained the provisions of the Industrial
Districts portion of the proposed Development Code, which are
probably the most general type of guidelines. They include the
provision of appropriate areas to accommodate industrial
enterprises, provision of adequate parking space, minimal traffic
congestion, protection from objectionable enviromental
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influences, promotion of high
consolidation of industrial
industrial uses that provides
and assurance of compatibility
standards of site planning and
uses, promotion of a mix of
a sound, diverse industrial base,
with adjacent land uses.
Mr. Brodeaur described ways to improve the appearance of the
loading bays at industrial sites, and suggested a planned
arrangement of signs, rather than free-for-all placement.
Mr. Brodeaur answered questions regarding wrought iron
fences and emphasized the need for a strong structural basis.
Next meetinu
It was determined that the next Development Code workshop
would be held at 1:30 p.m., March 19, 1990, in the Feldheym
Library.
Adiournment
At 3:32 p.m., Council Member Miller made a motion, seconded
by Council Member Reilly and unanimously carried, that the
meeting be adjourned.
SHAUNA CLARK
City Clerk
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Deputy ty Clerk
No. of Items: 5
No. of Hours: 2
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